Talk:Piano Sonata No. 16 (Mozart)

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Is there a conscious connexion with the song that goes "you with the stars in your eyes"? 'cause the tune I remember is very similar. 142.177.127.144 19:28, 3 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Is Piano Sonata No. 15 (Mozart) supposed to redirect here? It is an entirely different piece from the Piano Sonata No. 16 (Mozart). Homo sapiens 04:22, 20 May 2006 (UTC)

Agreed. Sonata 16 is actually K570 in Bb Major. WilliamH 14:04, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

Hrm. Depends on whether one counts K533/494 (and I'd go with yes). Then if K457 is n° 14 as seems to be, K545 is n° 16, K 570 is n° 17, K 576 is n° 18. Schissel | Sound the Note! 05:08, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] "Any further additions"

I have to dispute the following sentence, which seems to be absolutely groundless:

The movement is a lot slower than the first - ironically indicated in the notes by the presence of more of them; in Mozarts' [sic] day tempo and dynamics were left up to the performer, so any further additions are "probably" those of the publisher.

On what documentary basis are we insinuating that details of K. 545's slow movement are not Mozart's? And what is this weasel word "probably" (in quotes, no less) all about? There is a lot of stuff in this article that I cannot source, although it seems fairly legitimate musical analysis stuff (unless it is original research which would not be appropriate); I did source the first paragraph's documented historical facts. But this one about "any further additions" is unacceptable, in my opinion, unless someone can find some support for it. --MollyTheCat 13:12, 26 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Difficulty

I think defining the difficulty of the first movement with grade 5 and the second with grade 6 is okay. But the rondo is in my opinion easier than the second movement. The second part of the second movement is very challenging for the left hand, as you have to change notes more often and with more black keys, than in the rondo. The rondo looks difficult, but is not that much. Additionally, the rondo is the shortest movement here, so it is easier to learn. I think ABRSM grade should be about 5 and not 7. p.s. My english is not perfect, sorry. --84.151.57.203 (talk) 00:18, 11 June 2008 (UTC)