User talk:Phyesalis

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Taking a brief wiki-break due to a new job (yeah!) - sorry for the inconvenience this may cause.

This is my talk page. I reserve the right to remove posts for inflammatory language, vandalism, unprovoked attacks and mortally-wounding stupidity. Although I'm not inclined to do so. I'm up for constructive criticism, genuine discussion of articles beyond their talk pages, and requests for help or explanation. I'm not up for pyrrhic partisan coup-counting (also known as "I gotcha last!"), angry pointless rants (although pleasant and amusing ones are not necessarily discouraged), and bitterness. Crankiness, ok - we all get cranky. But frankly, bitterness just ruins my day, so I try to avoid it when ever possible.

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[edit] Philosphy of rights

While it's not saying the same thing that I'm saying, note the acknowledgement of a diversity of points of view about rights that is expressed in footnote 2 of Human Rights and Reproductive Choice by Freedman and Isaacs: "The philosophical basis for this right remains a matter of some disagreement. For some, reproductive rights are "natural rights", an inalienable part of each individual's essential humanity. For others, reproductive rights are socially determined needs derived from the unequal gender relations that prevail in most societies (see Petchesky, 1990)." —Preceding unsigned comment added by Coppertwig (talk • contribs) 01:14, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

Both natural rights and social rights qualify as subsets of human rights - don't really see your point. -Phyesalis (talk) 01:56, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Re:Abortion and mental health

Hi Phyesalis, thank you for keeping in touch with me. Honestly, there are moments when I would rather talk to a wall, but you and MastCell seem very eager to compromise, preserve neutrality, and resolve dispute. By the way, I noticed that the sentence I did not want to see deleted is actually very redundant as the sentence, almost verbatim, is mentioned in the section "post-abortion syndrome." Do all negative symptoms fall under the umbrella term "post-abortion syndrome?" My understanding was different from this. миражinred (speak, my child...) 00:44, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

LOL! Thank you for such lovely praise, and you're more than welcome. I understand the desire to talk with walls, often I feel like banging my head against one. I can only speak for myself, but I try to keep it civil so that other productive editors (like you) don't get so fed up with contentious articles that they give up. As for your observation - you are correct, not all manifestations of negative responses constitute PAS - this goes back to the distinction User:Equazcion and I hashed out - the difference between weather and climate - a few days' of rainfall do not constitute a rainy climate just as a few days worth of negative emotional responses do not constitute depression or PAS. As for the redundancy, I'll go over the article again. --Phyesalis (talk) 01:37, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

Interesting choice of analogy. By the way, it looks like IronAngelAlice found a study at Washington State University which says that abortion does not elevate the risk of suicide. To make it even better, it also seems quite recent since it says that the study was from 1987–2001. I think it's worth a look and should be added into the article. Well, keep up the good work, Phyesalis! миражinred (speak, my child...) 03:48, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] A small token of appreciation

		The Surreal Barnstar
		Consider this a gift from the hottest Korean in the world. (Yes, that's me) Although many users have been left frustrated at the stalemate abortion and mental health, you continue to keep your cool and strive to resolve disputes by collaborating with other editors. Keep up the good fight. миражinred (speak, my child...) 18:36, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

LOL! I'll treasure it always - it isn't every day I get a gift from the hottest Korean in the world! Thank you. --Phyesalis (talk) 18:48, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

LOL you must treasure them everyday. I happen to know this Asian kung-fu master who will be reading your mind 24/7 with his mad ninja skills. Be careful, he was known for his mastery since the Ming Dynasty. You may think that all of this is irrelevant since I am a Korean. However, all Asians are interconnected with an super-ancient web of filial piety. миражinred (speak, my child...) 19:28, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

I was having a really bad day but now you've made me laugh (out loud no less) twice. Saranghae! (Yes, I just looked up what it meant.) I promise to be dutiful in treasuring my gift. ;) In return, I offer you the Korea Filial Piety Song. --Phyesalis (talk) 23:49, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

very important update: The ancient Kung-fu master summoned me to his opium den in Ming Dynasty to inform me that you did indeed appreciate my gift. However, I must warn you that the star was not crafted with ancient Chinese secrets. He was glad that you appreciated my gift since he would have had to call forth his ancestors from millions of centuries ago to curse you.

As for the eloquent song of filial piety, I was deeply moved as it praised my Asian roots that have been laced with super secrets that will entice all the men in the world. I wonder if the men at Newgrounds understood the lyrics which must sound foreign to their ears. By becoming the hottest Korean in the world, all of them would flock to me to decode the complex meaning of the song. миражinred (speak, my child...) 00:56, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

Gosh I can't get the song out of my head. миражinred (speak, my child...) 00:58, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

ROTFL! Yay! You have truly reduced my wikistress level. --Phyesalis (talk) 05:07, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Subcategory/Task Force of Feminism

I replied to your comment to this topic at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Gender_Studies#Subcategory.2FTask_Force_of_Feminism. I wanted to say thanks for your support of the idea of the subcategory/task force. I am thinking of making it, but I want to be sure that it will actually have participants and that it will be active. I want it to be of use to others. You also made a rhyme in your comment. hehe --Grrrlriot (talk) 00:16, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

I am still thinking of making the task force, but the question is where should I put it? Should it be part of the Gender Studies WikiProject or Should it be part of the Feminism Portal? I want to know your opinion on the matter. Thanks! --Grrrlriot (talk) 03:53, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

First off, wow - you've been incredibly industrious! I'd say put it up over at Portal:Feminism and then drop a linked note over at WT:GS, Talk:Feminism, maybe WT:LGBT, and then add a link on the GS and F portal mainspaces. Like in "Help Out". Keep up the good work. --Phyesalis (talk) 04:55, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the nice compliment and thanks for adding the "talkback" feature to my talk page. It seems pretty interesting and lets me know that you have contacted me. As for being industrious on wikipedia, that's me, and I'm the same way at my job. As for the feminism task force, I think its a good idea, despite the negatives that Cailil was pointing out. I appreciate his advice and his support. Lquilter seems to think that it is a good idea as well. I think I will be BOLD and make the task force within the next 24 hours. This will be the first task force I've ever made, so I will be quite new to making it. I'm not new to task forces, I'm a member of the Anarchism task force. (Keep an eye out on your talk page because I will let you know when I make it.) --Grrrlriot (talk) 05:10, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

Great! Hey, you can just remove the template at the top of your talkpage. --Phyesalis (talk) 06:12, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, I know I can remove it, but I think I'll keep it there. hehe As for having the task force on the portal, Where should it be on the portal? I know where to put it if I make it a part of the Gender Studies WikiProject. Also, I'm not good at making userboxes or templates for wikipedia, at all. I will need some for the task force. Do you know of someone (or perhaps yourself?) that can design some templates and userboxes and how can I have every user to be automatically added to the Category:Wikipedians interested in feminism‎ category once they sign up on the task force? I went ahead and edited your userpage and added the category to your page, so I hope you don't mind The category didn't exist, but one user was interested in it, however, I finally made the category myself. --Grrrlriot (talk) 16:36, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

(undent) I'm no good with graphics. I'd suggest asking User:Allstarecho, though. He seems pretty handy with them. He's part of the LGBT project but I'd bet he'd help if you can make him laugh. And no, I don't mind that you added me. Thanks. Also I added a red link to the task force page (currently uncreated) over at Portal:Feminism and Portal:Gender studies, so all you have to do is click it and start editing. Does that work for you? Feel free to tweak the link/name/whatever as needed. --Phyesalis (talk) 19:55, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

I'm no good at graphics either. Once people decide to join the task force, maybe one of them will happen to be good at templates and userboxes. I'm going to start creating the task force right now. --Grrrlriot (talk) 20:45, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Feminist Theology

Hi,

Just wanted to let you know:

A. I couldn't agree more that we need some concrete suggestions to improve the neutrality of the Feminist Theology article. Someone mentioned including opposing points of view, but I'm not familiar with them.

B. I'm totally with you regarding the title of the article; I think it should be "Feminist Theology" for several reasons. Right now I'm trying to research feminists with a religious perspective, and theologians with a feminist perspective in order to bolster my argument. If you know of either, please let me know! Once I have my ducks in a row, I'll make the change and cross my fingers.  :-)

Thanks,

Webbbbbbber (talk) 18:55, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

Hi again,

Thanks for your kind words and suggestions on my talk page.

Couple of questions: 1. How do I add myself to Wikipedians interested in Feminism? 2. Can you help me with finding some noteworthy Jewish Feminist Theologians? It occured to me that some people might associate "Theology" with "Christian Theology", and I want to be clear that many Feminist Theologians are: Muslim (as you pointed out--thank you!), Jewish, Pagan (lots of these!), as well as Atheist. I know of atheist theologians, but don't know of any feminist atheist theologians (atheist feminist theologians?).

I'm almost done with my supporting essay for changing the title of the article! At this point, I think all I need is a Jewish Feminist Theologian or two.

Thanks for your support!

Webbbbbbber (talk) 06:52, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

To add yourself to, Go to your user page and edit it. Scroll down past the save page section and click on {{[[Category:]]}} after the : symbol, type just like this: Wikipedians interested in feminism

--Grrrlriot (talk) 20:54, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

That's all you have to do. I hope this helps. --Grrrlriot (talk) 20:54, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

Well, I did it. Apparently you can't change the title of an article in WP, so I just removed the redirect from Feminist theology and copied the contents of Religious feminism Please let me know what you think! I hope that I did everything correctly. Webbbbbbber (talk) 21:46, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

Thanks Phyesalis! I didn't know about moving articles...but now I do! I will leave a note on User:Shirahadasha's talk page. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Webbbbbbber (talk • contribs) 23:09, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] RfC

I think I'm officially frustrated and discouraged enough to go through the trouble of putting together an RfC on Strider12 (talk · contribs). Thoughts? MastCell ^Talk 23:11, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Where To Find Others To Invite To The Task Force

Here's a list of places/talk pages to post invites on: Try a link to Special:Whatlinkshere/Women's_rights, Special:Whatlinkshere/Feminism, Special:Whatlinkshere/Riot_Grrrl, Special:Whatlinkshere/User:Scartol/Userboxes/Feminism --Grrrlriot (talk) 23:12, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Gender Studies Portal

I updated and added some stuff to Portal:Gender studies. I don't know if it's very useful or not, but I did add a little to it. --Grrrlriot (talk) 18:03, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

One more thing, User:Scartol said he'd be glad to make templates and userboxes for the FTF. Yay!!! :) --Grrrlriot (talk) 23:44, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] RfC on Strider12

OK. I've put up the beginning of an RfC on Strider12 (talk · contribs). Please go to Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Strider12 and take a look. If you're willing to certify that there is a dispute which you've tried but failed to help resolve, then please sign the section labeled "Users certifying the basis for this dispute". If it's not cosigned by 2 editors in the next 48 hours, it will be deleted. Your input is welcome. MastCell ^Talk 23:24, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

Done and done. Thank you for the detailed work you put into this issue. --Phyesalis (talk) 23:51, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Comment

Sorry, I just got back to Wikipedia after an extremely busy weekend. I see your point though, and you're right I probably should have found a better place to mention this (perhaps at the Village Pump, although I've only used that once). Simesa (talk) 11:53, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] LGBT WikiProject Newsletter

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[edit] Riffat Hassan

I've created this article per your request at the Award Center. I'm not an expert on such topics so I would never have been able to expand it past a start class, but I'd certainly say it's not a stub by any means.--Michael White^T·C 05:03, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Portal:Gender studies

I see you are currently on wiki-break, but if you still have interest in this portal, I've made some improvements/additions to the skeleton (I haven't added any content, though). Let me know what you think. Carom (talk) 02:41, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Talk:Abortion-breast_cancer_hypothesis#Disputed_status

I would like your input on removing the Disputed banner. Congrats on the new job, in keeping with your much deserved wiki-break, I will delay resubmitting it to GA review until mid-April. - RoyBoy ⁸⁰⁰ 00:47, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Awards Center Newsletter

I'm pleased to announce that the Awards Center will be getting its own newsletter shortly. If you want to receive the WP:AWC newsletter, put your name here. --Sharkface217 19:45, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] How's it going?

I hope you're enjoying your new job.

I said I wasn't in a hurry, but I won't wait forever. Sorry, but if I don't hear from you soon, I'll start editing the articles you asked me not to edit. Regards, ☺Coppertwig (talk) 23:00, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Bill Moyers

Hi. Regarding Moyers' rather transparent liberal biases, do you not find it odd that a man who rants like a lunatic against people like Rush Limbaugh and Bill O'Reilly similtaneously cozies up to the likes of Al Franken (left-winger), Keith Olbermann (left-winger) and Bill Maher (left-winger), happily appearing on their shows despite the fact that they're as biased, partisan and sensationalistic as Limbaugh and O'Reilly? You really don't believe that he is a "fair and balanced" journalist, do you? Jeremiah Wright uses his pulpit to promote such lies and opinions as FDR's knowledge of the impending Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor before the fact, that blacks were injected with syphilis by doctors (it's well known they already had syphilis), that comparing black brains to white brains is like comparing apples to rocks, and that white scientists working for the U.S. government created AIDS as a means to exterminate the black race. What did Moyers say about this? He lied through his teeth and stated that the media misinterpreted his views, defending Wright in a way he never in a million years would have done for a right-wing lunatic preacher. Also, any church/state issues he may have had with a Jerry Falwell or Pat Robertson go right out the window when it's left-wing causes being promoted.

I long ago stated that I accept that Moyers is not a sensationalist; what he is unquestionably is a left-wing journalist. His claims that The NY Times, The LA Times, Harvard, The Boston Globe, MSNBC, Hollywood, et al. are only left-wing in the minds of the Republican Media Machine only further showcases his immense bias. Does any honest person really believe there is no left-wing media bias in the U.S., that only pro-Republican, pro-Conservative media forces promote such a view? What about the Harvard University study-- by a liberal university and including many liberal Democrats-- that showed the overal liberal bias of much of the mainstream U.S. media? Are left-wing Democrats also a part of this Republican Media Machine he, Al Franken, Eric Alterman, Robert Greenwald and David Brock so often speak of?

That so much of the criticism of Moyers' was removed from his page-- despite the fact that is was authenticated and despite the fact that O'Reilly has a Criticisms page longer than his regular Wikipedia page-- suggests to me that Moyers has a fanbase at Wikipedia that don't want him to be treated the same way O'Reilly or Limbaugh are treated.

Bill O'Reilly and Rush Limbaugh are partisan yahoos but Bill Maher, Al Franken and Keith Olbermann are not? Who is Moyers trying to fool here?

Gerkinstock (talk) 02:20, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

P.S. -- Here is another example of the man's blatant hypocrisy, disingenousness and bias:

http://www.democracynow.org/2007/1/16/bill_moyers_big_media_is_ravenous

The man who claims to oppose sensationalistic and biased media praises Michael Moore in a speech on media reform, alongside other left-wingers like Phil Donahue, Jesse Jackson, Jane Fonda and Helen Thomas. He pushes "progressive" politics and media yet claims to be a "journalist." Info regarding his bias has been gutted from his Wikipedia page yet his liberal bias is one of the defining characteristics of his life's work.

Gerkinstock (talk) 16:55, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] LGBT WikiProject Newsletter

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[edit] The Violet Quill and magazines Zigzig20s suggests we create an article on The Violet Quill, as it seems such a milestone in the advancement of gay/queer literature. Members of the Quill all have pages of their own (Edmund White, Christopher Cox, Robert Ferro, Michael Grumley, Andrew Holleran, Felice Picano, and George Whitmore). We need to find more info on the Quill per se to reference the page that we create. Perhaps Google Books - and libraries? - can help. A number of magazines also need articles, perhaps most notably QW, LGNY, and Lesbian Feminist Liberation. [edit] Mom's nagging for Pride Month It's June, Pride month. Wear sunscreen, stay hydrated, get a designated driver, then go half-dressed in the streets find a girlfriend or boyfriend, or some homo who's standing there looking lonely and kiss 'em up real good. Remember, it all started 39 years ago when a bunch of drag queens just got fed the f*ck up by the cops raiding the bar and dragging them all out to the pokey again. Rock on, queens! Enjoy your celebrations. My town's is in October, and 200 people attend. I miss Denver. [edit] Fresh faces to brighten our pages Hey, I've seen you around! Sorry there seem to be so many—it's been a while. But we welcome you all: Cheezisyum21, Taineyah, Dustihowe, Avesta69, RachelSummers77, Vivekgopinathan, AMK1211, Staffwaterboy , Ted Ted, Joe5150, Leahtwosaints, Robapalooza, Arthomure, Confusionball, Affinity likely, PrinceOfCanada, Yobmod, Npd2983, Neagley, Bvlax2005, Bvlax2005, Rhullsf, Textorus, Kieran.casey, Tyciol, Meojive, Sappho'd, Bookkeeperoftheoccult, Gaywarrior, Aujourd'hui, maman est morte, and Balin42632003. It looks like we've picked up a lot of talent lately. We have no doubt you'll be making your indelible mark on LGBT knowledge as we know it, here at Wikipedia. In the immortal words of Miss Julie, "May all your Wiki days be bright, and may your Love Boat never turn into a Poseidon." We miss you, Miss Julie, as well as all the others who have graced our project and are on wiki-breaks or just got fed up with all the nuttiness and went to live their lives. Get your stupid houses built and hurry up and come back. --Moni3 (talk) 16:52, 9 June 2008 (UTC) To stop receiving this newsletter, or to receive it in a different format, please let us know here. If you have any news or any announcements to be broadcast, do let Moni3 know.

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