User talk:Phogg2

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[edit] Welcome

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[edit] Links

Welcome to Wikipedia. Although everyone is welcome to contribute constructively to the encyclopedia, one or more of the external links you added to the page John Zachman do not comply with our guidelines for external links and have been removed. Wikipedia is not a collection of links; nor should it be used for advertising or promotion. Since Wikipedia uses nofollow tags, external links do not alter search engine rankings. If you feel the link should be added to the article, please discuss it on the article's talk page before reinserting it. Please take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia. Thank you. [1] --Ronz (talk) 22:30, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

See also WP:COI --Ronz (talk) 22:30, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

Please do not add inappropriate external links to Wikipedia, as you did to John Zachman. Wikipedia is not a collection of links, nor should it be used for advertising or promotion. Inappropriate links include (but are not limited to) links to personal web sites, links to web sites with which you are affiliated, and links that attract visitors to a web site or promote a product. See the external links guideline and spam guideline for further explanations. Since Wikipedia uses nofollow tags, external links do not alter search engine rankings. If you feel the link should be added to the article, please discuss it on the article's talk page rather than re-adding it. Thank you. --Ronz (talk) 16:30, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Your test edit

Welcome to Wikipedia. Everyone is welcome to contribute constructively to the encyclopedia. However, talk pages are meant to be a record of a discussion; deleting or editing legitimate comments is considered bad practice, even if you meant well. Take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia. Thank you. [2] --Ronz (talk) 17:06, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Please wait for help

I realize the situation may be frustrating for you, but please wait for another editor to step in. --Ronz (talk) 00:55, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Zachmanframework.jpg

Thanks for uploading or contributing to Image:Zachmanframework.jpg. I notice the image page specifies that the image is being used under fair use but there is not a suitable explanation or rationale as to why each specific use in Wikipedia constitutes fair use. Please go to the image description page and edit it to include a fair use rationale.

If you have uploaded other fair use media, consider checking that you have specified the fair use rationale on those pages too. You can find a list of 'image' pages you have edited by clicking on the "my contributions" link (it is located at the very top of any Wikipedia page when you are logged in), and then selecting "Image" from the dropdown box. Note that any non-free media lacking such an explanation will be deleted one week after they have been uploaded, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. If you have any questions please ask them at the Media copyright questions page. Thank you. NOTE: once you correct this, please remove the tag from the image's page. STBotI (talk) 19:30, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

I've removed the link to zifa.com from the image page as well as spam. If you would like to add a link to the actual page the image is on, I think that would be acceptable. --Ronz (talk) 16:07, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

Ronz: I added the link to the version of the Zachman Framework poster that is provided freely by ZIFA in an attempt to comply with the fair use policy. If it doesn't add any further jusification, then it certainly doesn't need to be there. What else can I do to remove the tag from the image site?

Phogg2 (talk) 17:23, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

I'm afraid I don't know any more than you about image tags. I'd check with the editor that tagged it. --Ronz (talk) 17:39, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

Phogg2, if you click on the image it leads to a message that it's going to be deleted on 24 February unless a fair use rationale is provided. Your photographing John Zachman's poster doesn't produce a public-domain result; Zachman still owns the image. Either you need an acceptable Fair Use Rationale (one that justifies our use of an image that is copyrighted by someone else), or you need Zachman's permission to release the image under WP:GFDL. Do you have any way of contacting him? EdJohnston (talk) 03:22, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

Ed: I have notified John of the requirement for him to provide permission for Wikipedia to retain the picture in the article, including the statement about the license, etc. I have also learned that he is in India until March 4, so I don't know if he will be able to respond by February 24. Could we get an extension on the deadline? --Phogg2 (talk) 14:46, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

Hi Phogg2. I assume you still have the photograph? I don't know how one requests a delay in the image deletion, but in any case, the banner across the bottom saying (c) John Zachman should be removed from the photo if he is willing to release it for GFDL. So you'd have to remake the image anyway. We can discuss this again after you've got the copyright situation sorted out, and re-do the upload at that time. EdJohnston (talk) 15:59, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

Thanks Ed: Once we get the permission sorted out, I will crop the picture to remove the (c) caption. In the meantime, I have been unable to find who I could ask for a delay in the deadline. I might have to replace the picture with a placeholder or perhaps a link to the source of the picture after it is deleted? --Phogg2 (talk) 18:54, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

Ed: I have just heard back from John Zachman. Due to the recent edit disputes he is reluctant to grant outright approval to use the picture in Wikipedia at this time, unfortunately. He apreciates the improvements that have been made to the article, however. I think I will make a basic picture of the framework, less the cell details, citing the Zachman International website as the source with an indication that cell details may be viewed there. --Phogg2 (talk) 19:39, 23 February 2008 (UTC)

Hello Phogg2. Do you have some way of getting in touch with John Zachman? If you have his email and are willing to share it, click on Special:Emailuser/EdJohnston, so you can send it to me privately. Over at the WP:COIN noticeboard we are now describing the Lockezachman edits as vandalism. It would be embarrassing to have to block Zachman representatives from editing, so I would like to find a peaceful solution if possible. EdJohnston (talk) 03:38, 27 February 2008 (UTC)