User talk:Philip.marshall

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Excellent work on W.E.Cule!

Recently I obtained a copy of The White Caravan off eBay. I got it for my father who remembered reading it 65 years ago as a young boy. He had never seen it since, and some time ago asked how on earth he could obtain a copy. Needless to say he was delighted when it arrived unexpectedly in the post. I have tried in vain to find out about Cule. There's nothing on the 'net. I think you put some stuff on Yahoo some time ago, but it's not now available. I have contacted you in the past about Cule and you emailed me some info, but that was a while ago, and I couldn't track down your email. The email address that had for a NZ government dept. doesn't work. Anyway, the job is done. Wikipedia now has a fine article on Cule. One thing - it would be good to have his exact dates of birth and death. Do you know these? Arcturus 20:40, 25 July 2006 (UTC)


Hello: Yes, I do have the exact dates and a copy of a letter Cule wrote about his his early life (the source of the information given here) but unfortunately it's back at my home in New Zealand. (I'm currently living in Asia.) The BMS issued two "resolutions" on W E Cule - one on his retirement and one on his death and these also have interesting information. Regards Philip

PS I'm still feeling my way round in Wikipedia - not sure if I can email you.

Hello Philip,

You can email other Wikipedia users by going to their user page or user talk page. Down the left-hand side there's an option to "E-mail this user".

Regards, Arcturus 16:34, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

Contents

[edit] Tom Marshall

Hello - the Tom Marshall article was not deleted, it's still right here: Tom Marshall: Bible teacher! Also, cleanup tags such as {{unreferenced}} can be placed on any articles that are in need of such cleanup. These tags only indicate work that needs to be done on an article; they do not prevent you from improving the article at all, and as soon as the work is done all you need to do is remove the tag. This is not "interfering", it's typical WP practice.

Lastly, although you have provided links to the books Tom has written, the article still does not meet Wikipedia's verifiability guidelines (WP:V). All content in an article must be cited (WP:CITE) using reliable sources (WP:RS). This includes the current intro & all the content in the "Life and ministry" section. If it is not properly sourced, it is considered original research (WP:OR). As such, I am re-instating the {{unreferenced}} tag. Please do not remove it until the article is properly sourced.

If you have any further concerns or questions please let me know. --AbsolutDan (talk) 14:16, 30 July 2006 (UTC)


Philip, if you feel that AbsolutDan continues to be unreasonable towards you, please contact me. Thank you. Cshay 02:35, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

Hello Dan Do "reliable sources" include information on publisher's blurbs and publisher's web sites? If you follow the links, you will see where I obtained my information. I have added Tom's exact date and place of birth, which I don't recall seeing in a published source. I don't see how this could be challenged - anyone can look up the relevant birth records. As for details of his education and war service, again I don't see what is challengeable about these. They could be checked by anyone. Or does this count as "original research"? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Philip.marshall (talk • contribs) 06:30, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

Hi Philip - yes, if the publisher has further information on Tom that would help. I think the links you've provided already are fine for the "Published works" section, it's just the rest of the of the article that needs some citations. Though various facts about his life may be truth, as much as possible they have to be cited. Not every single sentence must be cited, of course, but it's best to provide references for the key points at least. Check out the various featured articles (WP:FA) - those are generally good examples of well cited material. Especially important is to cite points-of-view such as "he was a respected international Bible teacher" and "His reputation as a Bible teacher and speaker grew..."
A good biography of the man published in a reliable source (see WP:RS) ought to cover most of the key points quite nicely.
Don't worry if you have trouble finding something though - as Wikipedia is a collaborative project, you can just leave the {{unreferenced}} tag on the article, and someone else may come along and find sources for you. Just keep the article on your watchlist so that if someone challenges any of the facts or has questions you can respond as needed.
If you have any further questions or trouble feel free to let me know! --AbsolutDan (talk) 13:02, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Welcome!

I see no one has left you an official welcome message yet. Allow me to do so:

Welcome!

Hello, Philip.marshall, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are some pages that you might find helpful:

I hope you enjoy editing here and being a Wikipedian! Please sign your name on talk pages using four tildes (~~~~); this will automatically produce your name and the date. If you need help, check out Wikipedia:Questions, ask me on my talk page, or place {{helpme}} on your talk page and someone will show up shortly to answer your questions. Again, welcome!  --AbsolutDan (talk) 13:05, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Verification

Hello Dan: Thankyou for those suggestions, which I've taken aboard.I think this should now meet all the Wikipedia verifiability standards. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Philip.marshall (talk • contribs) 05:59, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

You're welcome! The references you provided do help, however they really ought to be in proper citation style - typically this includes title of the article in quotes, the byline (author's name), the name of the periodical in italics, date of publication, and the date you retrieved it if it's online. For more information on citation guidelines, see WP:CITE. If you need any help formatting the citations don't hesistate to let me know! --AbsolutDan (talk) 13:01, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

Yes, I do know about citations, Dan, but in a short biographical article of this nature I don't think it's necessary to cite the source of every statement in the way you suggest. Similar articles I've seen in Wikipedi don't do it and I don't propose to do it either. This article is factually accurate in every respect and the content can be verified by buying or borrowing one of the books and reading what's on the cover. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Philip.marshall (talk • contribs) 08:23, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

Yes it's true that not every single sentence needs to be cited - however the "main speaking points" should be, at the very least. The "sources" section as it stands is certainly an improvement, but at some point they should be turned into proper citations. Just like any research paper, sources should be.
Again, don't worry if you don't have the time or access to the materials to write up the proper citations - the {{unreferenced}} tag can always be left in place for someone else to come along and help out with.
You're right in that many articles out there don't cite their sources properly. This is becoming a problem for Wikipedia. If you see such articles, please feel free to help us out and tag them with {{unreferenced}}. --AbsolutDan (talk) 12:56, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

I have more things to do with my time than tag other people's articles. Please remove the tag. And try to keep a sense of proportion about things. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Philip.marshall (talk • contribs) 05:14, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

Thank you for providing citations for the article, it looks to be in much better shape now. I will be removing the tag shortly. Bear in mind though that Wikipedia is a collaborative process - articles do not belong to any one person, and any editor has the ability to improve upon any other article. If an article needs work to meet Wikipedia policies and guidelines, adding a cleanup tag is normal and expected practice (unless the reviewer can clean it up him or herself). The cleanup tags help other people find articles that need work and improve upon them.
If you have a problem with any of my edits or other activities here, please follow the dispute resolution process (see Wikipedia:Resolving disputes). Leaving messages such as this: [1] is not appropriate (nor was Cshay's original message to you, but him and I are discussing that as well). If you're simply not sure why I've done or said something, please feel free to ask. I'd be happy to explain any of my edits or comments. Thanks --AbsolutDan (talk) 12:40, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Blocked??

Can someone tell me why I have been "blocked" from editing Wikipedia - I'm using the same public computer (in Thailand)I've always used. I think the process needs to be explained in simpler language - I'm at a loss to understand what's happpening here.

Philip, —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Philip.marshall (talk • contribs) 07:18, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

Hi Philip,
I've checked, and it appears as though your account has never been blocked. Since you mention that you're on a public computer, it sounds like someone else either using that same computer, or using another computer that shares the same IP address did something to get that IP address blocked. When an IP address is completely blocked, anyone editing from that IP address (even editors editing with an account like you are) are also blocked.
Here's what you should do: first, determine what the IP address is of the computer. If you don't know how, one easy way is to go to http://www.whatismyip.com and write down what it says your IP is. Then, go to the following link: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&type=block. Enter User:123.45.678.90 in the title box (where 123.45.678.90 is your IP address) and click Go. You'll then get information about any blocks on that IP address.
Generally, blocks on IP addresses are short and might have even expired by the time you get this message. However, if it is a long block and you are still unable to edit, you can request to be unblocked. To do this, go to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:123.45.678.90 (again, filling in your IP address in place of 123.45.678.90). If the IP has been blocked, you should see a message on that talk page indicating as such. You can then add {{unblock}} where reason is something like "I am user Philip.marshall and I am unable to edit from this IP address". If it doesn't let you edit that page you may need to log out so that you're editing from the IP address directly instead of your username. An admin will then review the unblock request and take the appropriate steps.
If you have any trouble following this process, I can certainly help. If you can just let me know what your IP address is, I can look up any blocks on that IP and add the unblock request for you. You can add your IP address right here on your talk page (and I will see it), you can add it to my talk page here: User talk:AbsolutDan, or you can e-mail to me (if you don't want it posted) by clicking this link: Special:Emailuser/AbsolutDan.
I hope this helps! --AbsolutDan (talk) 13:07, 13 September 2006 (UTC)
Philip: I noticed since posting this message that you appear to have been able to edit some articles. Perhaps the block already expired. You can still follow the above process to check on the block, if you're curious. If it was in fact blocked, you may also wish to consider adding something to that IP address's talk page, indicating that you're a legitimate user editing from that IP, and ask that admins consider this when blocking the IP. I believe there is an option now that allows admins to just block the IP, but not accounts editing from that IP. --AbsolutDan (talk) 13:10, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

Hello Dan: Thanks very much for that helpful explanation. I had no problem editing from a friend's computer, and today the block has been lifted from the public computer I was using yesterday. I now know what to do should the problem recur. Regards Philip

Anytime! --AbsolutDan (talk) 12:45, 15 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Nagasaki Population

Hi Philip.marshall,

Thanks for updating the population of Nagasaki. I noticed that you didn't update the population density, which is on the same line; I've just updated that. It's worth noting that the population density changes whenever the population does.

Best regards,

Fg2 11:58, 11 November 2006 (UTC)

Hi: You're right - thanks for that. Regards Philip

Please explain your action re this article

[edit] Miura Tamaki

A tag has been placed on Miura Tamaki, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done because the article seems to be about a person, group of people, band, club, company, or web content, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is notable (see the guidelines for notability here). If you can indicate why the subject of this article is notable, you may contest the tagging. To do this, please write {{hangon}} on the top of the page and leave a note on the article's talk page explaining your position. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself.

Please read the criteria for speedy deletion (specifically, articles #7) and our general biography criteria. Feel free to leave a note on my talk page if you have any questions about this. Philip.marshall 15:17, 11 November 2006 (UTC) on the User Talk page of the author.

[edit] Please consider removing the invalid ISBN from the article on Ajahn_Sobin_S._Namto

Hello Philip! In this edit [2] you restored the invalid ISBN to the article about Ajahn Namto. This will potentially cause problems for people who try to order his book, because such web sites as booksinprint.com and abebooks.com will NOT accept any orders that cite an invalid ISBN. Please let me know if there is a reason why you prefer to keep the invalid ISBN. EdJohnston 17:28, 26 November 2006 (UTC) Hello Ed Well, the isbn is taken from my personal copy of the book in question. I have re-checked this, and have found a copy of the book for sale on the internet which cites the same ISBN. So I am at a loss why you say the no. is incorrect. Regards Philip

Philip, this is in the category of books where the ISBN is invalid-as-published. Publishers are supposed to be sure their ISBNs are valid, but occasionally they slip up. As you can imagine, this causes havoc elsewhere in the system, because checking of ISBNs for validity is considered a good practice by a number of booksellers. It is certainly to the advantage of the publisher to be sure the ISBN is valid, because otherwise they can lose sales. Some of the smaller publishers run into problems, or cut corners. As a mainstream purveyor of reference information, Wikipedia likes to be sure that we publish only valid ISBNs. That's why Rich Farmbrough's robot called SmackBot visited your page and posted the warning that you saw. You can confirm that the ISBN is invalid by trying it at isbn.org/converterpub.asp. If you are willing to remove the invalid ISBN, I can provide a replacement ID number (called an OCLC number) that will confirm for everyone who visits your page that the book is legitimate. EdJohnston 01:27, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

Hello Ed　thanks for the explanation - Ive removed the isbn. Please supply an OCLC.Regards Philip

[edit] OCLC number, and title of article

Philip, thanks for your response. I updated the article with the OCLC number. Note that the publisher spells his name 'Achan' and not Ajahn, and perhaps this is an issue of different transliterations, but you might want to consider moving the article so that his name matches up. EdJohnston 01:53, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

Thanks Ed. Achan is a title meaning teacher in Thai; it's also transcribed as Ajahn or Ajarn - there's no consistency in the spelling.

[edit] An Invitation

Hi Philip.marshall,

Here's an invitation to visit Wikipedia:WikiProject Japan. There, you can meet other Wikipedians working on articles related to Japan. You'll find lists of new articles, projects, and links to resources such as



Hope to see you there!

Best regards,

Fg2 08:24, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

Thanks Fig 2 Thanks for that - I'll check it out. Regards Philip

[edit] Article Source Question

I am extremely interested to know more about one of the books mentioned in the article about the illustrator named Joseph Finnemore (that Finnemore illustrated...) It is entitled The Golden City, Pembina, U.S.A. by M. Harding Kelly. I am researching Pembina and this is a hitherto unknown book about the town. Any clues or more information to follow up on this title would be greatly appreciated. Trishymouse 19:08, 24 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Clarification Question

Philip, are you saying there is no such thing as a book called The Golden City, Pembina, U.S.A.? I just want to make sure of what you meant...Thanks Trishymouse 15:12, 25 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Beongcheon Yu

The article Beongcheon Yu has been or soon will be deleted from Wikipedia. This happened because the article seems to be about a subject but it does not indicate how or why the subject is notable. If you can indicate why the subject is really notable, you are free to re-create the article, making sure to cite any verifiable sources. Feel free to leave a note on my talk page if you have any questions about this. You might also want to read our criteria for speedy deletion, particularly item 7 under Articles. NawlinWiki 14:47, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

Beongcheon Yu is a notable translator of Natsume Soseki and author of a study on him; he has also written on Lafcadio Hearn and other Asian/American writers.　Please　allow me to complete this entry. PLease rstore this page As you have deleted my page I would like you to restore it with the following text*


[edit] Beongcheon Yu

Beongcheon Yu is the translator of Natsume Soseki's novel "The Wayfarer" and author of a critical study on Soseki. He has also wrtten studies of Lafcadio Hearn. Yu was born in Korea in 1925. He attended the First Higher School in Tokyo,and received his BA from Seoul National University (1948). He received his MA from the University of Kansas City (1954) and his PhD from Brown University (1958).


[edit] References

Natsume Soseki, The Wayfarer, trans. Beongcheon Yu, Charles Tuttle,1969 ISBN 4-805302046

Natsume Soseki,Beongcheon Yu, MacMillan Publishing Company 1984-02 ISBN 0805728503

[edit] Other works by Beongcheon Yu

Akutagawa; An Introduction, 1972

An Ape Of Gods; The Art And Thought Of Lafcadio Hearn. 1964

The Great Circle : American Writers And The Orient, 1983

Han Yong-Un and Yi Kwang-Su: Two Pioneers Of Modern Korean Literature, 1992


Categories: | Japanese-English translators


[edit] Hi Philip

I see you've been around for a while now. Please get into the habit of signing your messages on talk pages with ~~~~. Also it would have helped me if you'd left a link to Tom Marshall (Bible teacher), or even better the diff, like this. You will see clicking on the diff, that I have not removed the text, it was rather User:Slf67 who explained that it was persuant to WP:BLP. Nonetheless I have added the information back as reasonably sourced and non-controversial. Rich Farmbrough, 09:57 9 February 2007 (GMT).

P.S. Please start new threads at the end of others' talk pages not the top. Rich Farmbrough, 10:30 9 February 2007 (GMT).

ＯＫ-thanks for that Richard; sorry about the misunderstanding.

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