User talk:Phil burnstein
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Hello, Phil burnstein, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are some pages that you might find helpful:
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I hope you enjoy editing here and being a Wikipedian! Please sign your messages on discussion pages using four tildes (~~~~); this will automatically insert your username and the date. If you need help, check out Wikipedia:Questions, ask me on my talk page, or ask your question and then place {{helpme}} before the question on your talk page. Again, welcome! Jon513 (talk) 17:16, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
- I have responded to your comment at Talk:613 Mitzvot. Jon513 ([[User
talk:Jon513|talk]]) 17:16, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
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[edit] New contributors' help page
Hello. I've responded to your post at the New contributors' help page. —Elipongo (Talk contribs) 07:00, 23 January 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Speedy deletion of Phil burnstein:sandbox
Thank you for experimenting with Wikipedia. Your test worked, and the page that you created has been or soon will be deleted. Please use the sandbox for any other tests you want to do. Take a look at the welcome page if you would like to learn more about contributing to our encyclopedia
If you think that this notice was placed here in error, you may contest the deletion by adding {{hangon}} to the top of the page (just below the existing speedy deletion or "db" tag), coupled with adding a note on the article's talk page explaining your position, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the article meets the criterion it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the article that would would render it more in conformance with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. — NovaDog — (contribs) 01:24, 10 February 2008 (UTC)
If you want to make test edits, you can use the main sandbox (WP:SAND). If you want a sandbox for yourself, you should make a page in your namespace. To do that, you create a page at User:Phil_burnstein/whateverpageyouwant. For instance, to make yourself a sandbox, you might want to make a page at User:Phil_burnstein/Sandbox. Thanks, and enjoy editing Wikipedia :) — NovaDog — (contribs) 01:26, 10 February 2008 (UTC)
- Heh, you probably accidentally typed in five tildes
~~~~~instead of four~~~~. Five tildes just gives you the date, four tildes give you the username and the date. Three tildes just give the date. — NovaDog — (contribs) 01:36, 10 February 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Re:Eligibility for Project membership
- Of course not, WikiProjects are never limited to a certain racial, ethnic or religious group. Only a handful of the project's members are Palestinian anyway. Just add your name to the list. Salaam/Shalom! --Al Ameer son (talk) 17:29, 11 March 2008 (UTC)
Hi Phil,
As Al Ameer Son says, the Wikiproject is not limited to Palestinians, so of course you can join. To answer your other questions, according to the Palestine Liberation Organization definition for the Palestinian people, any Jew who is a descendent of someone who was resident in Palestine prior to what they call the "Zionist invasion" (which most date to the signing of the Balfour Declaration in 1917) is considered to be part of the Palestinian people. Of course, identity is self-defined and cannot be imposed on anyone, so you would have to think of yourself as Palestinian to qualify as one. :) You might want to read two articles that cover some aspects of people in your situation - one is Palestinian Jew (which needs work actually) and the other is Arab Jew#Palestine. Anyway, I, as a self-identifying Palestinian whose family roots in Nazareth go back centuries, but who currently holds Israeli citizenship, would be very happy to count you among our people, if you felt that that's who you wanted to identify with. :) Welcome to Wikipedia! Tiamuttalk 17:47, 11 March 2008 (UTC)
Dear Phil,
I was deeply moved by your comments on my talk page. I too have struggled for many years with the issue of identity and have come to similar conclusions regarding its mutliple layers. It is quite true that I chosen to privilege my Palestinian identity over the many others, and that has been a conscious choice, one that developed over time for many reasons too numerous to explain here.
Funny you would mention the Jerusalemite identity. I once wrote an article on Jerusalemites which was deleted and merged to Demographics of Jerusalem. What I found most beautiful about most of those who identified as Jerusalemites (in Arabic, qudsi, or loosely "one who lives in the sacred place") was the consciousness of the multiplicity and plurality of the inhabitants of the city and its culture, which was widely celebrated amongst those who proudly claimed it as their identity. Your sentiments follow in that fine and proud tradition.
About the Wikiprojects here, there is one in which you would not have to choose between Palestine and Israel. I forgot to mention it to you at the time (to be honest, I keep forgetting the link because of its length and only manage to find it when it appears on my watchlist), but here it is now: Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Israel Palestine Collaboration. I think it might be the perfect place for you to start, since you are obviously interested in collaboration on subjects related to both. I do hope you will join us there. I also sincerely hope that one day you will be able to return to Jerusalem, without having to make a choice between what are at present, two rather mutually exclusive identities. With respect, Tiamuttalk 23:54, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
- Just saw your beautiful and brief message in reply now. I have no doubt that one day that hope will be fulfilled for all those who truly do hope for it. Where there's a will, there's a way, my brother. Glad to see you joined the Wikiproject as well. Look forward to seeing you around town. :) Tiamuttalk 01:45, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
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