Talk:Philosopher king

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Contents 1 Other Candidates 1.1 Enlightened Absolutists 2 Jefferson? 3 Removed Joke

[edit] Other Candidates

Here are some other famous rulers/statesmen that could possibly be seen as a philosopher king:

• Cicero
• Augustus Caesar
• Nerva
• Trajan
• Hadrian
• Antoninus Pius
• Pericles

[edit] Enlightened Absolutists

• Catherine II of Russia
• Frederick II of Prussia
• Gustav III of Sweden
• Maria Theresa of Austria
• Charles III of Spain
• Joseph II, Holy Roman Emperor
• Leopold II, Holy Roman Emperor
• Joseph I of Portugal

[edit] Jefferson?

Under what context would Thomas Jefferson be considered a "philosopher king"? True, he was a great idealistic founding father, but why wouldn't Madison, Hamilton, or Washington be considered one? Especially when compared to Benjamin Franklin whom, at least in my opinion, was one of the most philosophical out of all of them.

Whom?

Careless misuse of grammar 24630 02:26, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

Dick Cheney? You've got to be joking. Is there some sort of obsession to put an American politician on the list or something of that sort? --124.170.82.115 10:22, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

More to the point, none of them are kings. They didn't rule anything; they may have led, legislated, or governed, but they're not kings (or queens).

Sorry, that was FZ (talk) 15:59, 25 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Removed Joke

I removed:

• George W. Bush (citation needed "The Daily show" John Oliver)

The citation request was not properly inserted. Also, what was said on the show, just as the text added here. Is a joke which distracts from the scholarly nature of this page, and bears no academic relevance to the concept of the "philosopher king". It's pop culture, not philosophy.

Edit: Also important is that the concept of "historical", under which the removed portion was listed by nature suggests someone who is not currently in a position to be described as a philosopher king.