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[edit] US is Canada?
Why is the Disribution Centre in Canada under the US section of International involvement? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Chairsenses (talk • contribs) 14:22, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Structure
Makes sense to me to add sections for Philips other products, and not just consumer electronics. Since their imaging systems cost in the hundreds of thousands of dollars, their imaging products probably make a substantial portion (if not a majority) of their annual revenues. FreedomWorks! 17:51, 1 May 2006 (UTC)
Thought it useful to add Wikipedia links to the list of imaging systems FreedomWorks! 16:42, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
Just noticed that a couple of the external links need to be redirected to subpages of the external sites they link to. Changed theworldofcdi.com link to a subpage that has the actual "History of CD-i" info. FreedomWorks! 17:24, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
Grouped the External links by the pre-existing categories in the article (generally). Found a new site for each product category that didn't have at least two already. FreedomWorks! 17:41, 15 May 2006 (UTC)
Just noticed I forgot Lighting product category! Added the 3 most-related external links re lighting. FreedomWorks! 18:35, 5 June 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Expansion requested...
I'd like to see expansion of this article to cover various things, including more details of Philips history, details of the various divisions (by function and by country), more details of inventions, patents, innovative or famous products and also links to some of the more prominent employees. However I don't know enough to be able to add this lot - I might manage a snippet about the Redhill Research Labs. -- SGBailey 20:57, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
I see no mention of Philips with regard to their computer divisions such as Philips Business System and Philips Data Systems. Philips also became a major player in the ATM market and multivendor computer maintenance.--Phimo 14:01, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Expansion Plan
The four general product categories represented in this article are taken directly from Philips.com. Philips doesn't seem to give much prominence to its computer divisions, they are not even mentioned or linked to on Philips.com. So, to accomodate the interest in its computer divisions, perhaps adding a Other Products & Services section would do the article well -- after, of course, Lighting and Semiconductors are fleshed out. Any volunteers? FreedomWorks! 16:05, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
- Domestic Appliances & Personal Care needs to be mentioned as they are the market leader in shavers. Steelbeard1 17:03, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
- Does anybody know the history of those computer divisions? Philips was restructured in the 1990s, and all the current product divisions are listed in the article. --Silvonen 06:48, 21 August 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Philips Semiconductors
The Philips page will require a significant revision after its Semiconductor Division becomes a separate legal entity in October, 2006. DFH 18:18, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
- Following the sale of the Semiconductor Division to the private equity consortium (as announced on 2006-08-03), the name of the new company will be announced at the end of August 2006. When this new name becomes known, we should create a new Wikipedia page for it. DFH 12:46, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
- Once this new page is up and running, the redirect from Philips Semiconductors should be retargeted to it. DFH 13:19, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
[edit] History of Philips
For those who are interested, a lot of the history of Philips was covered in the book 45 Years with Philips by Frederick Philips. DFH 18:29, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
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- The history section of this article can be expanded hugely, I believe, and not only with materials from Frits Philips' book. Michel Doortmont (talk) 22:54, 14 April 2008 (UTC)
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- I've got only a German source, but the Philips-Valvo-Röhrenwerke in Horneburg used forced work from the Neuengamme concentration camp from 1944 until 1945 (Valvo was as mentioned a subsidiary). I've edited this to the Horneburg article. I'm not sure to edit this here. Sebastian scha. (talk) 23:39, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Apparent Copyvio in Post-War section
It looks as if a few of the paragraphs in this section have been directly copied from the Philips website - for example: "In our more than 115 year history, this counts as a big step that is definitely changing the profile of the company."
- Not necessarily a copyvio - the wording could have come from the Press Announcements. Anyway, some of the wording has just been changed in this section in order to give it a more encyclopedic tone, etc. By all means make further improvements, as long as they are kept factual. DFH 13:24, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Nazi collaboration ?
The article suggests that Philips collaborated with the Nazis before and during WW2. While the article asks for a citation for this, I can't find anything to back up this suggestion. Given the severity of such a suggestion would it be appropriate to temporarily remove the sentence until an acceptable source is found?
- The statement certainly requires qualification. A detailed account of how Philips fared under the German occupation of the Netherlands is included in Frits Philips' book. Unfortunately, I don't know where my copy of the book is currently located. DFH 16:23, 28 August 2006 (UTC)
Reading of Frits Philips' obituary certainly makes it difficult to believe that Frits (or the division he was left with) voluntarily collaborated with the Nazis. (see http://www.cauxinitiativesforbusiness.org/lives/philips.htm). FreedomWorks! 16:01, 1 September 2006 (UTC)
[edit] United Kingdom
With the formation of NXP Semiconductors, and the employees at Hazel Grove and Southampton transferring to the new company, the number of Philips employees in the UK will need to be revised downwards. DFH 16:42, 2 September 2006 (UTC)
I think the number of employees in the introduction is too low - Philips lists a total of 121, 732 in the 2006 Annual report.Lindenksv 05:10, 26 May 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Radiotherapy
Philips sold their Radiotherapy business to Elekta in 1997, but mention is still made in this article to 'radiation oncology'.
[edit] Philips Whirlpool
Philips used to own the company that make the Whirlpool home appliances and it was known as Philips Whirlpool, however no mention is made of this here or in the article for the Whirlpool company. This needs to be rectified, I would do it but don't know enough about it to make any detailed edits and can't find anything online. 74.65.39.59 12:39, 21 April 2007 (UTC)
- Actually, "Philips Whirlpool" was a transitional name used after Whirlpool Corporation bought Philips' major appliance operations, beginning with a joint venture in 1988 with Whirlpool buying Philips' interest in 1991. It is mentioned in the bottom of the article under 'Global'. Steelbeard1 13:14, 21 April 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Consumer complaints - It's Philips - It's Phailed
[edit] BBB statements about Philips actually show positive comments
I removed the recently added Consumer complaints section. It read as follows:
- Philips has an increasingly growing amount of complaints through the BBB about selling products that fail to perform as expected. Products tend to fail just outside of warranty and it tends to happen more than just a normal expected failure rate. Most companies would consider a recall on such products but Philips just denies a problem exists and continues on as if nothing is wrong.
- At the time of writing this, the Better Business Bureau has listed 739 customer complaints that were not handled by Philips in a satisfactory way for the customer. One tends to wonder how many people did not go to the BBB with their complaint. In doing a search online I found almost 500,000 hits of websites complaining about Philips.
Besides not reading like an encyclopedia entry, the link did not support the editor's assertions.--S Roper 17:56, 4 June 2007 (UTC)
[edit] First DVD Player
Phillips was the first to produce and market the DVD player. I couldn't find it in the wiki. Does anyopne know the model (models) or date of the/these DVD players? I know this to be a fact, and read about it in some periodical, but don't feel like looking for this factoid on the internet. Yes, I am that lazy.
- No, Panasonic was by far the first to introduce DVD players into the market (models A-100 and A-300, I recall) by spring 1996. Philips was much later with its DVD730 and DVD930 models. A Toshiba-sourced model was introduced in the US market but not before Panasonic and Toshiba, of course. Philips was the first to introduce a DVD recorder into the market in Europe (the DVDR1000) but worldwide it was preceded by Pioneer and Panasonic models in the Japanese market.The Seventh Taylor (talk) 19:13, 9 February 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Overview of major divestures
There's a section on the Semiconductors division becoming NXP and a tiny list of spin-offs but many divested daughters, divisions and business units are not mentioned yet. I'm thinking of:
- Duphar
- Hollandse Signaal
- Data Systems
- whitegoods division sold to Whirlpool
- SuperClub
- PolyGram
- Philips Media
- Components division (Display Components moved into joint venture LG Philips Displays; most Optical Storage into a JV with LiteOn but OPU activity to Arima Devices)
- Mobile Display Solutions (sold to TPV)
- Car Systems (sold to VDO Mannesmann, later Siemens VDO, now part of Continental)
- Automotive Playback Modules (JV with LiteOn)
- Philips Sound Solutions (sold to D&M Holding)
- Philips Consumer Communications (mobile phones)
- Enabling Technologies Group (sold to VDL)
- OD&ME (now ODMS and part of VDL?)
- security camera business sold to Bosch
- broadcast equipment business sold to Thomson
- set-top box business sold to Pace
- factories sold to Jabil etc.
Furthermore Philips has for a considerable time had majority stakes in Grundig, Bang & Olufsen and Marantz but divested all of these, and then there are the divestures of stakes in Navteq, TSMC, JDS Uniphase, etc. I'm sure I've omitted many more. The Seventh Taylor (talk) 19:26, 9 February 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Philips sponsor of the Dutch football club.
I fail to see how this is important enough to be in the first summery of the article.
SelfQ (talk) 21:36, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
- It is important, as Philips is not just a sponsor. Football club PSV Eindhoven, for decades now one of the top three Premier League soccer teams in the Netherlands, and the very succesful PSV swimming team, emanate from Philips' long-standing interest is sport as a valueble means of recreation for its employees. I will see if I can rewrite the section a bit. Michel Doortmont (talk) 22:54, 14 April 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Philips old logo.svg
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BetacommandBot (talk) 14:30, 8 March 2008 (UTC)
- Done. Steelbeard1 (talk) 14:39, 8 March 2008 (UTC)
