Talk:Philip IV of France

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Suggestion regarding the comment on Philippe not being fair:

Look up the word "fair."

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See comments on Philippe III. Same thing applies. Thanks.... DW

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For ideas for the beginnning of a deeper historical assessment, see "What links here." --Wetman 19:43, 9 Dec 2004 (UTC)

• User:Francis Schonken has take upon himself the job of redirecting the article. That is the first step. "What links here" will give the list of articles with redirects to be changed.--Wetman 08:50, 30 August 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Philip the Fair?

There should be a section describing why Philip IV is called Philip the Fair when he obviously was not.

Er, "Fair" as in good-looking/blond, not "fair" as in "just." john k 17:50, 19 March 2006 (UTC)

The original French name is "Philippe le Bel", which clearly means "Philip the Handsome" (no conotation of being "Blond" here). PHG (talk) 20:34, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

Fair enough. Indeed, in this case, it just means "good looking." It certainly doesn't mean "Just". john k (talk) 01:32, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Citing Sources

After the Friday The 13th sentence, it lists Citation Needed. I don't know who originally put that information about Friday the 13th there, but I just heard confirmation concerning it on the documentary "Knights Templar" on the History Channel. Is that good enough reference? If so, how would a reference for a television documentary look? Kwyjibear 07:56, 27 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Cenotaph photograph

Here is a photograph of the bust of Philippe le Bel, which I took in Saint-Denis. Could somebody kindly include it in the article, in the infobox? Best regards PHG (talk) 18:41, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

Done! Ealdgyth - Talk 19:11, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

Thanks! PHG (talk) 19:56, 8 April 2008 (UTC)