Talk:Philidor Defence

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Is it possible for someone to edit this so that there are paragraphs, or at least list the moves underneath each other, because it is rather difficult to read the moves... even though some books I have read list the moves like they have done in this article, there is a possibility to make it more readable, or am I going to far?cKaL 02:36, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

Hey CKaL,

I understand what you mean. I couldn't follow it like that myself as a intermediate chess player. It is possible to make it more readable and you are not going to far. I have formated/edit the whole text so people could follow it. I gave it plenty of space. It's not as perfect as I would like but hopefully others would clean it up to make it look better. Now I can follow it better myself :-) Topsaint (talk) 10:53, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Alternative moves

Another White response to 3...Nf6

White retains some advantage with the following; (Both Kaufman [2], and Grandmaster Christian Bauer[3]recommends this.)

4.dxe5! Nxe4 5.Qd5! Nc5 6.Bg5

1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 d6 3. d4 Nf6 4.dxe5 (4.Nc3 possible) Nxe4 5.Qd5 Nc5 6.Bg5, and White is better. SunCreator (talk) 22:25, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] 4. Qd4

1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 d6 3. d4 exd4 4. Qxd4... Well got no theory on it either. After 4...Nc6, white will either give up a tempo by moving the Queen again or give up the Bishop pair by pinning the Knight 5. Bb5 leading to 5...Bd7 6. Bxc6 Nxc6, when White is better but nothing special. SunCreator (talk) 22:25, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] discussion

1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 d6 3. d4 Nf6 4.dxe5 Nxe4

5.Qd4 looks like the more natural move in the sequence. Both the Queen and the Bishop are attacking the dark squares including g7 and the rook at h8.

5.Qd4 Nc5 6.Bg5

6. .. Be7 7. exd6 any(BxB) 8. Qxg7 Rf8 9. NxB(if ..7 was BxB) wins the g7 pawn and prevents kingside castling.

6. .. f6? 7. exf6 gxf6 8. Bxf6 forking the Queen and Rook.

23:36, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 d6 3. d4 exd4 4.dxe5 Nxe4 5. Qd4(?!) d5! Now Black has a lovely supported central Knight. Both 6...Nc6 and 6...Bc5 heading for f2, are threats. White has waste a move to get the Queen out the way. Black is at least equal and most likely better. SunCreator (talk) 00:10, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

Thanks. Somehow I missed 5 .. d5. 207.171.180.101 (talk) 00:18, 11 April 2008 (UTC)