Talk:Philadelphia mayoral election, 2007

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[edit] Recommendations

I like the recent cleanup to put in some better references and remove some of the politically biased statements. Some further style suggestions I have are:

- Footnote individual facts using the ref tag, so you can match up each piece of information with an appropriate article for verification. That also will make all the references line up neatly at the bottom of the article.

- Create a section that discusses some of the published analysis of what are expected to be key factors in the election and/or political topics that published articles are discussing which are expected to influence the outcome or that the candidates are debating. As it stands, all the article pretty much says is that there are so-many democrats running, and there is a poll, but there is no information about what the election "is about" politically or what is motivating the voters one way or another.

- Lay out a nice bullet point list of all the candidates, with quick information on each, along with a link to the candidate's Wikipedia article if one exists. At the moment the candidates are little more than names in a poll.

Thanks again for the recent cleanup. :) Dugwiki 22:36, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

Can someone change the name to the 2007 Philadelphia Mayoral Primary Election or at least create separate sections that differentiate the primary and general election? The organization of this makes it is a little confusing since the real election has not occured yet. Sussman79 13:24, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Milton Street

Why are we ignoring the mayor's brother here? This is probably one of the few reasons why the whole city is paying attention to the election now--because of his antics.

[edit] Test

Philadelphia mayoral election, 2007 primary
Party Candidate Votes % ±%
Democratic Bob Brady N/A
Democratic Dwight Evans N/A
Democratic Chaka Fattah N/A
Democratic Tom Knox N/A
Democratic Michael Nutter N/A

(R) Al Taubenberger 100%

I added Bass and White, who submitted nominating petitions but will each get a few dozen votes. I think we should put Democratic in the box header, and eliminate the party column. Aardhart 05:32, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

Ok, but we should wait for City Hall to vertify their signitures. I've been hearing that Milton, Bass and Jesus White may get tossed off the ballot due to invalid signatures --206.125.60.59 19:42, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

Bass and Jesus White didn't even come close to 1,000 (Queena had only 482 valid signatures and Jesus White had 685) so no point mentioning them here--206.125.60.59 16:54, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

I could not find this information anywhere. Do you have a verifiable source? And why don't you register? Aardhart 17:02, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

I think the following non-partisan result boxes should be used for the primary:

Philadelphia mayoral election, 2007 Democratic party primary, May 15, 2007
Candidate Votes % ±%
Bob Brady N/A
Dwight Evans N/A
Chaka Fattah N/A
Tom Knox N/A
Michael Nutter N/A
Philadelphia mayoral election, 2007 Republican party primary, May 15, 2007
Candidate Votes % ±%
Al Taubenberger N/A

Aardhart 17:02, 12 March 2007 (UTC)


[edit] poll trends by poll

Source Date Brady (D) Evans (D) Fattah (D) Knox (D) Nutter (D)
Survey USA (NBC 10) May 1, 2007 11% 9% 18% 29% 27%
Survey USA (NBC 10) April 17, 2007 17% 10% 18% 32% 14%
SurveyUSA March 13, 2007 17% 13% 22% 25% 11%
SurveyUSA Feb 16, 2007 18% 10% 32% 22% 8%
Susquehanna Polling April 26, 2007 9% 7% 14% 20% 18%
Susquehanna Polling March 13-14, 2007 13% 10% 17% 22% 12%
Susquehanna Polling Jan 4, 2007 10% 12% 29% 9% 12%
Keystone April 5, 2007 16% 10% 17% 24% 12%
Keystone Polling Jan 31, 2007 8% 10% 26% 22% 12%
Keystone Poll Jul 2006 5% 11% 27% 1% 10%

Aardhart 03:31, 2 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Wikinews

wikinews:Michael_Nutter_wins_mayoral_primary Someone want to update that article? --evrik (talk) 18:39, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] The Larry West Factor

It should be worth noting that, despite not being on the ballot, Larry West DID stage a write-in campaign for Mayor, although unsuccessful. He gained notoriety for this action, most noticeably when he announced he could not be on the ballot. Philadelphia City Paper wrote an article about this:

Young Man West, Gone —Preceding unsigned comment added by LuvataciousSkull (talk • contribs) 12:08, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Past Candidates

I think it is important to note who ran for this office in the interest of historical accuracy. LuvataciousSkull 22:54, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

I plan on expanding the Primary section and want to include more information about those candidates as a result. (The primary certainly seemed to be the important part of this election) I just need to finish tracking down sources. Medvedenko 20:08, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Ridiculously misleading introduction

The two major candidates, Michael Nutter and Al Taubenberger were selected the Democratic and Republican candidates respectively in the 15 May primary election. Michael Nutter won the election by a large margin and with the lowest voter turnout in a Philadelphia mayoral election without an incumbent since 1951.

Really? This is the takeaway? A low turn out election between Nutter and Taubenberger? Obviously the drama and interest in the race was focused in the Democratic primary, which rates no more than a bare mention in the intro? The introduction should talk about what people are actually interested in about this election, which is the surprising primary contest. NPOV does not force us to pretend that an essentially meaningless general election contest that everyone knew the outcome of six months in advance was the real story here. john k (talk) 06:02, 24 February 2008 (UTC)

Note that User:Staffwaterboy removed this comment, calling it "vandalism." No idea what that's about. john k (talk) 06:12, 24 February 2008 (UTC)

I don't find that introduction "misleading" per se, but it does miss how out-of-nowhere the Nutter victory was, the colorful Knox/Brady rivalry, and why Taubenberger bothered to get out of bed in the morning. Part of the problem is the sparseness of the Primary section. Can't pull much into the lede from there. / edg ☺ ☭ 10:18, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
I'm agreeing with the last comment. The primary was the most interesting part of this election, with the entire Milton crap, the Knox in the lead then siding with Jamie Blackwell, to Fattah being called out by Larry West... really interesting stuff! LuvataciousSkull (talk) 13:57, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
It'd be more accurate to say the primary was the only interesting part of the election. What is misleading is "the two major candidates" - the other four Democratic candidates were much more "major candidates" than Al Taubenberger, in that any of them might theoretically have become mayor, whereas there was no chance whatever that Taubenberger would. john k (talk) 15:04, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
I've tried rewriting the intro to give more emphasis to the primary campaign. There needs to be a more detailed discussion of the primary campaign in the main text, though. john k (talk) 15:08, 24 February 2008 (UTC)