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[edit] Honored Members

This section (and it's subsections) have been changed to pros style (again), as called for by consensus at Wikipedia talk: WikiProject Ice Hockey/Team pages format. Any continous attempts to revert the section to a list style (against WikiProject's guidelines) could be seen as vandalism. GoodDay 19:20, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Trenton Devils

I am aware that the Devils bought the Titans and changed the name, but I am not sure that the Flyers have terminated their affiliation with them, yet. Do any links exist which might prove the affiliation agreement has been terminated? --207.69.140.25 20:27, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

You have to remember though that the affiliation system in hockey, especially in the levels below the AHL, aren't like that of what you see in baseball. While many of the teams do have affiliate relationships to a NHL club, not all do, in the ECHL their not as exclusive as the affiliate relationships are in baseball, also considering that some ECHL teams are affiliated to more then one NHL team, for example the Florida Everblades are affiliated with the Carolina Hurricanes and Florida Panthers on the NHL level but are only affiliated to the Albany River Rats on the AHL level. As for you question, based on the information on the ECHL, it would lead me to believe, also based on the press releases by Trenton and NJ, that the Flyers no longer have a relationship with the Trenton club and are w/o an ECHL affiliate. --Boothy443 | trácht ar 23:41, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
I do believe the "Devils" are specifically a NJ Devils affiliate only, otherwise they would have kept an ambiguous name, like Titans.Darthflyer 03:50, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
I don't see any mention of an affiliation on the websites of the Flyers, the Phantoms, The Trenton Devils, or the ECHL. ccwaters 19:12, 29 May 2007 (UTC)

I recall reading what I think was a blog entry hoping the Flyers would continue to send players to Trenton a while back, but until I find it (if I ever do), the following links will have to suffice.

First there is this article saying David Laliberte may end up in Trenton...

His Flyers contract is a two-way deal, meaning if he doesn’t stick with Philadelphia or its farm team, the Phantoms, and goes to the East Coast Hockey League (and Flyers’ affiliate the Trenton Titans), he’ll still make AHL money. An incentive Laliberte hopes keeps him in the Keystone State. “I don’t want to be sent to the East Coast (Hockey League). I got to work to stay in the AHL, but you never know. It always depends on your camp. After that they will evaluate all that stuff.” [1]

Then there is this protected list of players from Trenton which includes two Phantoms players from last year (Zingoni spent most of the season with the Phantoms).

The Devils’ protected list consists on the following players: goaltender Joel Martin; defensemen Chris Barr, Jerramie Domish, Daryl Marcoux, Jake Ortmeyer, James Pemberton, Evan Shaw, Luis Tremblay and Brett Westgarth; and forwards Scott Bertoli, Chris Capraro, Les Haggett, Jim Henkel, Gregg Johnson, John Laliberte, Mike Manley, Troy Riddle and Peter Zingoni. [2]

I still think it is premature to delist Trenton as an affiliate without confirmation. When the Devils bought the Titans, that didn't mean the Flyers were suddenly no longer affiliates. While the name change might indicate that the relationship is coming to an end soon if not already, there is no confirmation suggesting it is over yet. I suspect confirmation will only come when either the Flyers name a replacement affiliate or when the time comes to send extra Phantoms players to the ECHL this fall. Until then, I think the Trenton Devils should be left on the affiliates list. --207.69.140.51 21:32, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

I disagree, and I'll use something from the ECHL website as a source. It lists the ECHL teams and their NHL and AHL affiliates as of May 22nd, 2007 and the Flyers aren't on the list at all. BsroiaadnTalk 21:39, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

Found this on a message board:[3]

Flyers general manager Paul Holmgren said that no decision had been made in regard to the Flyers continuing to send players to Trenton. Trenton has been the Flyers' ECHL affiliate since the club began play in 1999. It was an easy decision for the Flyers when the Bermans owned the team, but since the Devils took ownership last September, things have changed. "We still intend to talk and see where we're at," Holmgren said. "The Devils at some point intend to make that a full-fledged developmental team of their own, whether that's this season or some time down the road. But we do intend to talk and see where we're at." Holmgren said there are other options, but Trenton makes the most sense. "Geographically it makes a lot of sense," he said. "We've had a good relationship in the past and it's something we need to explore."

[edit] Article Improvement

I made a couple changes to this page in the past day, most notably the expansion of the Franchise history. There are certain places I should have trimmed down a little more so as to not make the History of the Philadelphia Flyers article irrelevant (though if articles are created for every single Flyers season like 2006-07, that is something that may come to pass).

I have pretty much stuck to the Devils page format but I do wonder about the Franchise records section. Perhaps some of those records could be tacked onto the Philadelphia Flyers seasons article? If we are to have such a section, the only records worth noting are the franchise career marks, in my opinion. I guess it largely depends on the rationale for the inclusion of records when the Devils article received FA-status, which I am unaware of.

I think the effort should be made to get this article FA-status since it doesn't seem that far away as it is (sourcing being the major deterrent to those chances). I am not sure how to go about this, however. --207.69.140.25 20:20, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

Although I personally can't stand the Flyers, I'd help with this if we can get it started. The Flyers (although I hate to admit it), have a very interesting history full of major accomplishments as well as tragedy (the goalie who died while drunk driving...I can't think of his name at the moment). BsroiaadnTalk 03:03, 16 June 2007 (UTC)
That would be Pelle Lindbergh (1959-1985). GoodDay 21:56, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

Wiki's History of the Flyers: 184 kb. History of the American Revolution: 149 kb. Priorities, people! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.251.137.13 (talk) 02:33, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Pics

More Jersey pictures needed in the appropriate section; specifically current uniform pictures. Love each other, or perish. ~Auden 04:42, 10 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] "The Philadelphia Flyers have the second best winning percentage in the NHL behind the Montreal Canadiens."

Is there some kind of source for this claim? --4.239.168.139 18:50, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

What team has the best all time win percentage in the NHL? I checked to make sure the win percentage of .576 is correct and it is. --72.25.23.15 (talk) 06:27, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Radio and television

Is this section really necessary? Since the media outlets are already listed in the infobox it doesn't add much of anything to the article. --4.239.168.25 20:29, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Parenttime.jpg

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BetacommandBot (talk) 17:48, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

I've added the rationales, go ahead and review. Alaney2k (talk) 03:21, 3 January 2008 (UTC)