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Contents 1 Origins 2 Patriots/Protection Issue 3 Improvement drive 4 Not to be forgotten 5 Santa Incident 6 Serious Question 7 Eagles fans = hooligans? 8 Fan Behavoir Section 9 It must be football season :) 10 What are the Eagles best known for? 11 Training camp 12 Season-by-season records 13 Stylized uniform? 14 Fair use rationale for Image:Eagles alternate 1973-1995.gif 15 Eagles Captains 16 Fair use rationale for Image:Eagles 1973-1995.gif

[edit] Origins

The Frankford Yellowjackets and the Philadelphia Eagles are in fact a continuation of the same franchise. One day after a 13-12 victory over the Chicago Bears at Wrigley Field on October 25, 1931 (which would prove to be the franchise's last road victory over the Bears until 1999), the team suspended operations to due Depression-driven financial difficulties. They did not play at all in 1932, but on July 9, 1933, co-owners Bert Bell and Lud Wray filed new corporation papers at Philadelphia City Hall (which can be viewed on microfilm today at either City Hall or the main branch of the Free Library of Philadelphia - not sure which location they're at now) legally changing the name of the corporate entity to the Philadelphia Eagles. Therefore the Yellowjackets and Eagles are the same team in everything but name.

Well actionally It's largely forgotten today but back in 1940 Art Rooney sold his Pittsburgh franchise to Alexis Thompson who wanted to move the team to Boston. Then Rooney bought a half interest in Bert Bell's Philadelphia Eagles. The league wouldn't let Thompson go to Massachsetts and Rooney didn't really want to leave Pittsburgh. So Bell-Rooney and Thompson switched franchised territories. Bert and Art brought the Eagles to Pittsburgh and renamed them the "Steelers." Meanwhile, Thompson took the Steelers to Philadelphia and renamed them "Eagles." Most of the former Philadelphia players wound up in Pittsburgh and visa-versa. As late as 1945 the Steelers were officially owned by the Philadelphia Football Club, Inc. Apparently there was some revision the next year when Bell left his partnership with Rooney to become the NFL Commissioner. To all intents and purposes, the Steelers' and Eagles' histories run continuously from 1933 when both teams entered the NFL. But technically it's Pittsburgh (1933-1940) to Philadelphia (1941-on) AND Philadelphia (1933-1940) to Pittsburgh (1941-on). Just about everybody ignores the technically correct descent, and it's probably best that they do. I mean, how convoluted do you want pro football history to be.

So to be constitent the yellowjackets are now the Steelers

The only connection was that Bert Bell and his partners had to pay off some of the Yellow Jackets' unpaid debts. The NFL wasn't going to try to put a team in Philadelphia and get sued for the debts the Yellow Jackets had run up.

I recived this information from the pro football researchers association. Neither the team ( Eagles ) or league considers the two teams the same.

I can't find any evidence that Bell and Wray ever owned or had any connection with the Frankford Yellow Jackets. Also, whether the Eagles are the same franchise as the FYJ is debatable. By one account, Bell et al. bought the piece of paper that constituted the FYJ's former "franchise"; they bought this not from the old owners (Frankford Athletic Assoc.?) who had gone out of business but directly from the league, who had evidently had it in a drawer for a year or so. Also, the new team had none of the FYJ's players. I'm not saying that they're absolutely separate, just that it seems a bit debatable that it's one continuous franchise. Also, the league considers them separate for statistical purposes (team records, etc.).--BillFlis 18:37, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

Bert Bell never owned the Yellow Jackets as the Jackets were a community owned and funded team by shares, much like the Green Bay Packers. The Frankford Athletic Association ran the team operations and drew their funds mostly from the local businesses that used the team as an advertising tool. The only connection with the Eagles first ownership is that Lud Wray did play for the Yellow Jackets. There may have also been one other Yellow Jacket that played on the 1935 Eagles that we are trying to match up, but it is tough when most of them are listed with first initial only. Many last names are common.

The Eagles do claim some of the history of the Yellow Jackets on their website and I have questioned them on this a couple of times with no answer. If they do want to lay claim to the history of the Yellow Jackets I believe they should be recognizing Guy Chamberlin and Link Lyman into their Roll of Honor. I also tried to get them to recognize the 80th anniversary this year of the 1926 Championship season which we will celebrate in December. IanBlade 11:48, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

I don't know if anyone has noticed this, but there is a discrepancy in the listed all-time record for the team. The regular season records, as they are listed here (and which agree with profootball-reference.com, which I just checked by hand), add up to a franchise record of 487-531-25. Profootball-reference.com has the Eagles having a 16-16 all-time postseason mark, for a total all-time record of 487-532-25. This leaves a one-game discrepancy. Where is the "missing" game?

[edit] Patriots/Protection Issue

First off, thank you for protecting the page; I did not foresee much good unless someone stepped in and did something.

With regards to the issue itself, most of my logic has already been stated in my edit summaries, which could constitute a pretty good paragraph here; the only replies I have received are "thats nice" [sic] and "rm the soapbox". It seems like a pretty straightforward issue to me, and probably to just about anyone but an Eagles fan. The article states how, to somewhat rephrase it, the Eagles' fans rule and the Patriots' fans drool, which is not even the part that I am actually concerned about. It then goes on to state, in the same thought, how the glorious Eagles have in turn rewarded their fans for the above-mentioned super duper faithfulness by just being so much more darn glorious than everyone else for them, without mentioning the slightly relevant fact that the Patriots, for their part, have in turn gone on to win three (out of the last four) Super Bowls. That is a pretty huge fricking hole. It is also something that no one on the planet but a partisan Eagles fan would take any offense to or be bothered by, and any NFL fan but an Eagles fan would almost certainly find that to be a highly relevant fact. Wikipedia is not the place to try to point out the good and nothing but the good about your favorite teams, and the bad and nothing but the bad about teams that you do not like; that is what fan sites are for, not encyclopedias. If someone wants to stick their fingers in their ears, scream "nah nah, I can't hear you" at the top of their lungs, and delete anything they do not want to hear, they are welcome to start their own website, but I do not believe that Wikipedia should serve as such people's pulpit.

I should mention that I am replacing some of my hardware tomorrow, so I might not be on here for a night or, at most, two. --66.158.232.40 07:24, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)

• I think that entire paragraph has to go. I don't see how Jeffrey Lurie's motives of buying one team over the other is actually relevant to this section. Zzyzx11 (Talk) 16:32, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)

• • The paragraph does seem out of place in a "Fans" section, and seems to try to covertly say 'look how glorious Eagles fans are compared to others.' Assuming the facts are actually true to start with, I think that an article on the owner himself and his purchases would be the appropriate place for it, if anywhere; this article is about the Eagles, not about their owner, his personal reason for choosing to buy that particular team, nor any previously considered purchases that he did not make. I also think that the beginning of the paragraph would be fine without the ending; the statements at the beginning, of what he bought and did not buy and the reasons and all that, can be seen as just factual stuff, but the latter part of the paragraph (where "latter part" means the last two sentences) just degenerates into blatant, I'm-not-gonna-even-attempt-to-cover-it-up fanboyism, which is what led me to temper it with the other half of the story. So I guess that gives us five options: flat out throw the paragraph away, move the first part to an article about the owner, move the entire paragraph to an article about the owner, leave the paragraph here and just remove the latter part, and leave the paragraph as it currently stands. What do you think? --66.158.232.40 23:05, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)

It's been a couple days.. Let's give it a try unprotecting the article. Rhobite 23:13, Jun 17, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Improvement drive

National Football League is currently a candidate on WP:IDRIVE. Vote for it if you are interested in contributing.--Fenice 20:04, 16 August 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Not to be forgotten

Template made, list is getting too long. Also trying to list only pro-bowlers and widely known players, not the entire all-time roster.Gorgeousp 06:04, 28 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Santa Incident

I reverted Tommstein's edit on the "Santa Incident", not because I necessarily doubt that his info is accurate according to "Outside the Lines", but because nobody who missed the show can verify it. If you can find an internet source for this version of the story, then it might be worth updating (though we'd still need to verify its accuracy). The long-standing version of the incident may indeed be false, but if we're going to throw it out, I think we need some evidence. -JerryOrr 12:45, 19 December 2005 (UTC)

Is there an Internet source for the old version?Tommstein 07:39, 20 December 2005 (UTC)

Possibly (though I honestly haven't looked for it), but the old version is "common knowledge". If there is not a strong source for either version, then we should either use the "common knowledge" or eliminate the section entirely. But it is not appropriate to start changing established Wikipedia content with some version that you claim to have seen on TV. JerryOrr 12:43, 20 December 2005 (UTC)

Calling it "common knowledge" ain't gonna fly. At least my version actually has a source, probably seen by millions of people, you just complain about not being able to see it yourself. Wikipedia is not here to spread urban legends. If there's no Internet source for the urban myth version, then we should reinsert the sourced one (where no, 'source' does not mean "Internet link"; never has, and never will, kind of like using books, even rare ones, as sources).Tommstein 05:18, 21 December 2005 (UTC)

Supposedly your version has a source... but I can just as easily claim I saw an episode of "NFL Countdown" where Santa was actually Klaus Barbie, and the courageous Eagles fans were trying to pelt him into submission so that he could be apprehended. My source is just as well cited as yours. Claiming to have seen it on TV ain't gonna fly.

Certainly I'm not demanding an Internet source as the only possibility; but I don't think it's unreasonable to expect some sort of cited source. Provide that first, and then it can at least be debated whether your source or the numerous other sources is correct.

And again, I'm not saying I don't believe that you saw a show with this version or that the show's version is accurate... just please cite it. Wikipedia's guidelines on Citing sources specifically states "even if you are writing from memory, you should actively search for authoritative references to cite." JerryOrr 12:52, 21 December 2005 (UTC)

You are not immune to having to cite your sources.Tommstein 06:40, 22 December 2005 (UTC)

What sources have I not cited? The only content I've added is the "Eagles fans are often considered to be among the most passionate in professional sports" bit, which is cited just as well as your "hooligans" link. You can blame others for removing your "hooligans" link; I left it alongside mine, and I'd appreciate it if you would extend the same courtesy to me.

And if you are referring to my only other edit (removing the "roar of the crowd" sentence), that is nothing more than uncited POV hyperbole. It adds nothing to the description of the incident; it was already stated that some Eagles fans cheered the injury, and the next sentence states the seriousness of it. You have gone through the article and removed many phrases you consider uncited, POV, or hyperbole; is it so hard to accept that you added something inapproprate yourself? --JerryOrr 13:18, 22 December 2005 (UTC)

I'm talking about citing that whole Santa thing. The reason your link keeps getting deleted is simply because by the time I come on here and click on "cur" to see all changes that have happened since I was here last, invariably mine is gone and just replaced by yours. It would be ridiculous to go through every single edit one by one, unless I never want to contribute to any other article. Please join me in asking the dude that keeps removing it to cease doing so. The thing about your link is, though, that it appears to be someone's copy of an old Wikipedia page.

About the "roar of the crowd" thing, I get you. It was originally inserted by someone else (who knows who), and it is another victim of the 13,000 changes that happen throughout the day.Tommstein 16:39, 22 December 2005 (UTC)

I should mention, having just looked at the article, that I find your latest version, after your three consecutive edits, to be excellent.Tommstein 16:43, 22 December 2005 (UTC)

I'm glad we could come to an agreement. I'll support keeping both of those links (though you may be right about my link being copied from Wikipedia... I'll look into it more), and hopefully the compromise on the Santa incident will satisfy everyone. --JerryOrr 17:21, 22 December 2005 (UTC)

Sure man, it all sounds good to me. If I have some time later I'll see if I can find a version of the article that matches up exactly with that link. At least we know it would have to be a version after the last Super Bowl, since the link mentions it. It probably has other clues too.Tommstein 17:45, 23 December 2005 (UTC)

Take a look at this version: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Philadelphia_Eagles&oldid=12056861. Doesn't the GFDL require them to keep copyright notices or something like that?Tommstein 19:54, 23 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Serious Question

Has Tommstein ever been to 1 ONE Eagles Home Game? The guy obviously has an agenda to highlight bad fan behavior. There are SOME (1-2%) bad fans, but by far, most are there to enjoy and root their team on. Lots of families and lots of old time fans. Thanks, Tom (12/19/05)

I nominate the president of the Eagles fan club to write the Fans section. Surely you'll second the nomination.Tommstein 07:40, 20 December 2005 (UTC)

I like how you DIDN'T answer the question! But I already knew the answer. No, I wouldn't 2nd the nomination. What is your agenda?? Please come clean. Tom(12/20/05)

Shouldn't it be obvious by now that my agenda is to help you, and I quote me, "nominate the president of the Eagles fan club to write the Fans section?" You tell me what we've got to do to make this happen, and I'm there for you.Tommstein 05:19, 21 December 2005 (UTC)

Only thing obvious is that you are trouble maker who has never been to Philadelphia in your life...FACT...The Linc parking lots and Paterson Ave subway station are SAFE on game days due to two facts: 1)99% of fans go to enjoy the game 2)Heavy police presence on game days. I have been to numerous games with friends who have worn the opposing teams colors without incidence. Only drunk idiots, approx 1%(that's being kind) would try anything since there is security up the ying yang AND uniformed Philly cops who don't take shit from anyone. Tom 12/21/05

[edit] Eagles fans = hooligans?

Regarding the following passage in this article:

Some instances of fan misconduct stand out for their sheer outlandishness, and the atmosphere at Eagles' home games bears greater similarity to the intense atmosphere at European soccer stadiums than it does the typical American sporting event; in fact, Eagles fans have been compared unfavorably to European soccer hooligans by the media [1].

Has anyone actually read the cited link? I think the conclusion that this section takes from that article may be a misinterpretation. I read the article through, and although the author was using Eagles fans for most of his examples, his point seemed to be that American sports fans in general are more like European soccer hooligans than they'd like to think. Take the following excerpt from the article:

When it comes to hooliganism, the US media really is the pot calling the kettle black. Riots at US sports events occur far more frequently than they do in the UK. And yet, in American popular culture, the "hooligan" is almost without exception portrayed as a soccer fan (and nearly always as English).

If you really read the whole article through, its comparisons to hooliganism are directed at American sports fans in general, not Eagles fans specifically. As a result, I'm considering removing this section from the Eagles article. Thoughts? --JerryOrr 19:43, 25 March 2006 (UTC)

• Based on recent edits to the section, I would prefer to remove any and all content that is not properly cited, or in that case, content that is misinterpreted. Zzyzx11 (Talk) 19:48, 25 March 2006 (UTC)

• Agree with you both on that one--Looper5920 19:52, 25 March 2006 (UTC)

• Eagles fans are "milk and cookies" compared to hardcore English Soccer fans, imho. The latter would kick US football fans up and down the stands hands down, but HOW is this really relevant anyhows? This whole Eagles Fans are hooligans is a joke but certain people, not to be named, have some hell bent agenda to do this. I know Tommstein will come back with his "let the head of the fan club write this article bullshit, but whatever. This website, unfortunately, comes down to how "bad" somebody wants to make their POV stand out. This whole thing is WAY overblown at this point. Just my two cents. PS, please remove if you didn't already guess. Tom 3/26/06

• I added the "some" fans to the Michael Irvin story because the way it read, it makes it sound like alot/many fans were cheering, when in fact it was a few, again the bad apples. Does the article mention how the majority of fans were clapping on HIS behalf when he left the field?? NO...Tom 3/26/06 (I have to much time on my hands :) )
• Just took a quick trip around the league and couldn't find anything CLOSE to what has happened to this page...even the "feared" Raiders fans only have ONE sentence about the black hole...I know, I know, its because Eagles fans ARE really that bad, right?? geeshh....Tom 20:33, 26 March 2006 (UTC)
  • For the record, I actually do think it's appropriate to have a section in this article dedicated to Eagles fans. They may have an unfairly negative reputation (when you consider that NO NFL team has well-behaved fans), but the fact that they have become so notorious is notable, and worth inclusion in this article. It just needs to be cited (and NPOV), which I'm attempting to do. --JerryOrr 13:49, 27 March 2006 (UTC)
    • I agree. I just think the section needs to be lower down in the article and about a 10th the size. Even a seperate page would be fine. It just seems so NON-NPOV the way it is. Can we please get some NEUTRAL input. Again, I went to EVERY other NFL Team site and this seems WAY overblown. Also, I really disagree that NO NFL team has fans that don't misbehave. Again, its a SMALL percentage that get the attention, IMHO Tom 14:24, 27 March 2006 (UTC) ps, I see Tommstein got blocked..tisk tisk :)

Based on the consensus reached in this discussion, I've removed the "hooligans" section. One more step towards fixing the Fan Behavior seciton... --JerryOrr 00:01, 28 March 2006 (UTC)

• • • • Agree with everything stated above but it is kind of funny that we, as Eagles fans, kid ourselves that it is only a small percentage of people doing things. If we are not doing it then most likely we are condoning it and laughing and drinking beer while it is happening. Admit it, we take a preverse pride in it and I'll admit that I am OK with that. I've been on numerous road trips and will confidently say that, "As a city, we do not travel well." I have been around the states and attended more than a few sporting events outside of the States. Very few places rival an Eagles vs Dallas game in Philly except maybe a Rangers v Celtic game in Glasgow. We are what we are, no point indenyig it.--Looper5920 12:51, 13 January 2007 (UTC)

I have ti agree that although eagles fans may be reluctant to leave phili to watch a game, there are still events, such as our 4 successive playoff entroes that allow us into the world of football, it is uinfair to say that eagles fans are inferior to any other set of fans, without a credible source suggesting so.

[edit] Fan Behavoir Section

This still needs work to be "more" NPOV if that's possible, imo. The ".. Eagles fans have a reputation in many quarters as being unduly rowdy, or even dangerous."...unduly rowdy?? ok..dangerous?? I think that's a stretch. With all the security and Judge Samus downstairs, games are pretty tame at this point. Occasional drunk idiots starting fights?? sure, but security jumps on these guys in a heart beat at this point..thoughts?? Thanks! Tom 14:30, 28 March 2006 (UTC)

• In fairness, the section does say "have a reputation" for being rowdy and dangerous, not "are" rowdy and dangerous. I see the point you're trying to make... perhaps it could be reworded to emphasize that we're talking about reputation, and add a paragraph at the end of the section describing how the environment is now. Of course, that would have to provide a good source... --JerryOrr 14:37, 28 March 2006 (UTC)
  • Fair enough.... Where is it "sourced" that the Birds Fans have a "reputation" as being "dangerous"? Rowdy?? Sure, Fat and drunk?? I won't even go there :)...The UK Gaurdian article, I don't see a link anymore, thank g&d, was SO sensationalist and garbage, imo. I REALLY appreciate that we can discuss things in here civily(sp?)My spelling SUCKS!! Tom 23:06, 28 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] It must be football season :)

This article is waking up. Having been here almost a year and over 1,500 edits, I am feeling more confident in my edits and Wiki policy/guidelines. My biggest beef lately is with WP:CITE, WP:V and WP:OR. If people can find RELIABLE SOURCES for the material I removed, please feel free to add it back ALONG with the sources. Thanks --Tom 18:45, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] What are the Eagles best known for?

In the header, it says that the Birds are best known for their fans? That is very touching and I am proud to be a fan, but that is hardly encyclopdiatic. If sources can be provide, fine, include it, otherwise it should be removed, especially from the header. --Tom 18:22, 21 December 2006 (UTC)

I removed the "they are best known for....." from the header. I am a stupidly huge Birds fan, but that sentence needs to be sourced, especially with it being in the header in all. Anyways, lets reach consensus in here and then proceed okie dokie?? Also, E-A-G-L-E-S EAGLES!!!!!!!! --Tom 23:31, 26 December 2006 (UTC)

Tom is a genius. He knows what he's talking about, I'm only 14 and I agree with every word he says. The fans are great. Only a small bunch "Dirty Thirty" are jerks. If any of you have read The Sunday Pilgramage, by Anthony Gargano, I am the kid who goes up to Ike Reese and asked for McNabbs autograph a like ten years ago. I'm so sorry. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 69.242.120.186 (talk) 00:55, 9 January 2007 (UTC).

Hate to say it, but some Eagles fans have been known to get nuts. Not like soccer fans in Europe, but compared to other cities in the US with their sports, they are pretty nuts. PYLrulz 11:25, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

No, really? --Cmsjustin 12:57, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

Actually, somebody had linked an article from the British tabloid, the Guardian, that tried to make the case that Eagles fans are THE worst hooligans on the planet, worse than soccer hooligans. It was written by some bloke that went to one Birds game and was very POV. I've seen alot of strange things happen in the 700 end zone of the Vet, but few, if any deaths thank goodness. Again, as long as the material is from a few reliable sources feel free to add it in.--Tom 18:46, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

Oh, if thats the case, yeah, go ahead and delete on all counts, but the other stuff thats deleted, I say to keep. Compared to Brits and Italians and other Europeans, Eagles fans are choir boys, but compared to other pro sports fans in the US, yeah, they are pretty wild. Whammies Were Here 11:15, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Training camp

I moved it down in the article. I will also add the {fact} tag. --Tom 20:30, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Season-by-season records

The totals in the season-by-season records table doesn't make much sense to me. The totals under the W, L, & T columns are not actually the sum of the values in those columns (which seems counter-intuitive). I think that the totals in the W, L, & T columns should reflect the actual regular season records, and then a note could be added to the "Playoff Results" column, saying something like "15-20-0 in NFL playoffs". Bjewiki 20:01, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Stylized uniform?

I'm an Eagles fan who happened to create the following template: {{American football uniform}}, based upon {{Football kit}} (i.e., soccer uniform). I added it to the Eagles article, in the logo and uniforms section, but it was removed. I think it's a concise way to show the basics of the uniform without getting into the arcane details shown on other teams' pages (e.g., Washington Redskins, New York Giants). Editors can add details to the jerseys, helmets, pants, etc.; obviously, right now they're simple. What do people think? Rolando 18:22, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

Looks like they were removed without any explanation in the edit summary.[2] Zzyzx11 (Talk) 19:03, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

• You better start testing the template on Internet Explorer. Somehow, the colors appear gray instead of green. Zzyzx11 (Talk) 19:21, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

Is this working now? Rolando 22:08, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

The colors are more bluish, or bluish greyish, than greenish. Fix the colors a bit, I would say. 69.139.67.90 21:35, 19 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Eagles alternate 1973-1995.gif

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[edit] Eagles Captains

Is there a list somewhere of Eagles captains? I am working on the Wistert brothers' articles and Al Wistert could use either a navbox or succession box to show his captaincy. Since this page does not seem so heavily trafficked and a response may take a few days, drop a note on my talk page when you reply so I don't miss it.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/tcfkaWCDbwincowtchatlotpsoplrttaDCLaM) 15:41, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

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