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Archive 1 Archive 2 Redirect talk page (when page was a redirect to Philadelphia, Pennsylvania) Archive 3 (July 2006 - Nov 2007)

Contents 1 Page Name 2 Contradiction 3 placement of the red dot on the map 4 Distinction

[edit] Page Name

Should'nt this page be named Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, not just Philadelphia? Will someone please move it?--CPacker (talk) 21:21, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

I agree. All articles for American cities, besides New York City (and I don't agree with that decision), include the state in the title. Why should Philadelphia be different? Yes, it's a historic city but so are Boston, Massachusetts and Los Angeles, California, yet both of those articles have the state included in the title. --Tocino 06:01, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

I agree. "City, State" is the standard used in thousands of U.S. cities and towns. Conventions work best when they are consistently applied. ·:· Will Beback ·:· 05:25, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

Someone may move it as you ask, but expect someone else to move it back again. To understand why, recall that this is the encyclopedia that anyone can edit. Please read these:

1. Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions (settlements)/Archive 16#Move Chicago and Philadelphia back?
2. Talk:Philadelphia/Archive 3#Requested_move

Hope that helps. --Hroðulf (or Hrothulf) (Talk) 15:52, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

I agree with the sentiments expressed at the requested move discussion linked above, and disagree with moving it again to Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. Philadelphia is a city of worldwide prominence, with a unique name making the title "Philadelphia" rather unambigous. The peculiarity of appending the subnational division to the name of an article of a globally important city with an unambiguous name seems to be unique to our US city articles; not even our Canadian city articles are named that way (cf. Toronto, Montreal). krimpet✽ 16:35, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

Keep in mind this is the overwhelmingly dominant usage of "Philadelphia" in the world, and the fact that the city is likely more notable than the state it is in. (cf. Chicago).--Loodog (talk) 16:45, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Contradiction

This article contradicts the images Image:Verybroadclimatemap.png and Image:climatemapusa2.png. Those images clearly show Philadelphia in the humid continental climate zone, while this article states that Philadelphia has a humid subtropical climate.

Someone who is more knowledgable about this subject than I should investigate and correct either the article or the images.

--199.46.199.234 (talk) 17:59, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

"Because Philadelphia lies in the northern end of this zone, some of its outlying suburbs, especially to the north and west have a humid continental climate".--Loodog (talk) 18:39, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

I don't see any contradiction at all. It's clearly explained in the article. Philly is on the border line between both climate zones. _{El Greco}^(talk) 00:44, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

Correct, since Philadelphia falls right at 32F for its January average. It is basically the boundary point between Cfa and Dfa. CrazyC83 (talk) 22:46, 20 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] placement of the red dot on the map

When this image is viewed on the Philadelphia infobox, the red dot marking the city is over New Jersey. Shouldn't the map be re-colored, maybe without even a dot, but simply reddening the whole county? JesseRafe (talk) 00:51, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Distinction

What is the Neighborhood Between Spring gardens and Northern Liberties? zip code is 19123 Girard Avenue North Broad street East Spring Garden South North 5th Street West