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[edit] Eternal return

Hi, Phatius. I was copyeding your Eternal return (Eliade), and then noticed that a lot of the text appears to be original research. Could you please see my questions on the article's talk page? Dahn 12:08, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

Thank you. Dahn 23:28, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Exceptional newcomer Barnstar

For your valuable contributions to the category Mircea Eliade, I, Timor Stultorum present you with the Exceptional Newcomer Award. Keep up the good work!
For your valuable contributions to the category Mircea Eliade, I, Timor Stultorum present you with the Exceptional Newcomer Award. Keep up the good work!

--Timor Stultorum 15:03, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Category:Mircea Eliade

Hi. This category is up for deletion, and there is a vote in respect to this. It seems to me that people rushed into proposing it: they did not check to see how many red links existed in the parent article, did not realize that there were several people able to fill the gaps, and were themselves not aware of the fact that Eliade was more than a University of Chicago professor (for better or worse). It also strikes me as odd that most people who voted admit that the number of articles could easily expand, but basically argue that the category is too small for now (this is painfully counterproductive: not only would one have to track down the individual articles once the cat is recreated, but there is a risk that a category which was voted into deletion once could be permanently deleted if recreated, based on the assumption that it goes against consensus, and regardless of the fact that it was never opposed on principle). In case you're interested in the debate, please cast your vote following the link in the template at the top of the category page. Dahn 17:40, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Duplicate images uploaded

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[edit] Myth and ritual

Hi Phatius, the article is clearly in a early stage of development, I don't think that removing infos that it is missing can help. But I'm sure your edits are in good faith :) --BMF81 18:01, 1 June 2007 (UTC) Hem, sorry, I didn't see you just moved it :D --BMF81 18:03, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] mythology slogan

Welcome to the mythology project I am glad you joined recently. We have similar interest. Maybe we can work a little bit together on the slogan. Can you show some revisions to the slogan idea on the talk page? ...ultimately it might work best to have several slogal variations - one for the articles that no one ever finds controversial like "dragons", and one for living religion articles that tend to dispute the word "myth". I have a source but need to order it through inter-library transfer that may help the living religion articles. I also wonder if you might be the person to assess my 3 mythology articles? Tanfana, Weisse Frauen and Dames Blanches (folklore). I have left a request for someone to assess my recent work. Goldenrowley 19:14, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

Thank you for the star. Thank you also for reading my 3 articles and commenting. I highly appreciated the observations. I loved Eliade's book Myth and Reality, glad you're expanding on him. Goldenrowley 02:04, 30 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Materialism

Dear Mr McBluff, I have referred to you on a comment on the discussion page of Wikipedia's "materialism". I look forward to your response. Mlofts 11:56, 16 July 2007 (UTC)M. Lofts

Dear Mr McBluff, my apologies. I presume I forgot to press the 'save' button. This time I have pressed it - and left a spelling error in for you to correct. Looking forward to your reply. Mlofts 05:20, 17 July 2007 (UTC)M. Lofts


[edit] Hylo hello

I heard, I saw, I answered, moderately I hope. I got nothing against God. What's he got against me? Why is he trying to kill me? (joke). I think we share an interest in mythology. My main concern though is how to keep it out of history. Anyway, I'm just letting you know I did answer. I won't be on the article for a while. I'm doing a little biological writing.Dave 05:42, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Well...

Hi, and sorry for the delay (I was less active than usual). What happened was that the new bit of text was originally added to its own section (which was simply weird) and the work cited was passed for a "further reading" instead of a source. Therefore, I modified the text and added it as a source, as best I could, and requested page numbers in my edit summary. I would still like to see page numbers myself, but I'm not sure that the paragraph in question needs them - meaning that, for all we know, the entire book may elaborate on such criticism, and, technically, any page number could be given. I know how I would deal with that case and still manage to provide page numbers (for example, I would quote directly from the text with statements that summarize longer sections) but I do not know if lack of page numbers would necessarily discredit the current citations. I guess you could say I did some emergency surgery and am waiting to see if the patient will recover. Dahn 15:22, 28 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Jewish mythology

Hi Phatius. You tipped me off that "Jewish mythology" was page blanked and redirected recently. See discussion I began on Wikiproject Mythology. Goldenrowley 03:58, 29 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Thank you!

I feel at a loss for words. I want to reciprocate, but that would seem artificial (as if prompted by the fact that you gave me one). The fact is that you deserve a special barnstar, one that would illustrate how so much progress can be achieved by fusing different interests and perspectives into one coherent article. It is obvious that you had the more difficult part to deal with: a summary of a researcher's entire work, which you have handled brilliantly (especially considering that Eliade's work is among the more difficult to summarize).

I do owe you some explanations. I always regarded the "Eternal return" article as an excellent idea, and I could see right away that you were a competent editor (and quite possibly one of this project's most competent). I made the quick comments precisely to smooth out the few problems I saw in it, and I was pleasantly surprised by your prompt response and the fact that we instantly agreed. I must apologize for seeming cranky at the time (though I was aiming more for expeditious). The fact is that, at that moment in time, I was growing quite tired with all the hubbab on the talk page, and this unease probably poured (unintentionally so) into my comments on related issues. I was being harassed, stalked, and mudslinged by various editors, all of whom knew Eliade was a great scientist (and therefore could not have been a fascist), even though they could not name a single contribution by Eliade without resorting to platitudes. The ridiculous page moves, the endless discussions about terms in languages they do not master, the removal of sourced information, the verdict according to which material discussed by academics is trivial because it involves Eliade's sex life, the implication that a researcher has a bias because he is Jewish, and the occasional rewrites to strong neofascist content were getting to me. Your edits were not only a breath of fresh air, but, together with feedback from a precious few other editors, they effectively silenced the agitated crowd and got us over the crux.

I shall soon become involved in another project, on an unrelated topic, which will absorb my energies. I do have an image of how the new edits on Eliade will look like, but I'm still missing the essential book by Lovinescu, which will create a nice background for all the other details, from the talk page links and from elsewhere, to fit into. Regardless of other edits, as soon as I do get hold of it, it shall be the main priority - since you expressed an interest in them, I can only hope I'm not abusing your patience. Thank you again. Best, Dahn 22:38, 3 August 2007 (UTC)

Hi. I did some more research into Eliade (moving at a slow pace, but eventually getting to add the missing section). I was able to find quite elaborate material on his philosophic ideas before he was actually involved in writing his main works on the history of religion, the subject of his early essays, and not in any way connected with his academic activity. I was going to ask you: when I eventually add this stuff, should I modify the "Philosophy or religions" section and turn into "Philosophy", adding the new material in a separate section at the top? Or do you believe some other solution is in order? Best, Dahn 17:53, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
I agree 99%. The one part I would amend is the titles for the subsections. I would rather go with a your part being under a "Philosophy of religion" title, and the one I'll eventually add under "Early contributions" or something like that. Splitting it into "academic" and "non-academic" parts would be slightly inaccurate: he's was, after all, an academic at a faculty of philosophy back in the 30s, so he was probably contributing as a, shall we say, professional philosopher. Since, during that part of his career, he was only marginally involved in studying religion, I suppose my alternative would not be itself inaccurate. Of course, this may change depending on what sources tell me :). Don't worry about the pace: I myself only added stuff in the recent weeks because I came across it while editing other articles. Cheers, Dahn (talk) 02:16, 18 November 2007 (UTC)

Sorry for the inuse tag - I didn't mean to have it around for so long. I am working on an expansion to cover his literary work, which I would have added earlier - the thing is that I had some hardware problems in the process. I'm actually glad this blunder of mine didn't prevent you from adding to the text in the meantime. Feel free to remove the tag at your convenience (it just occurred to me you may find it useful, in case you want to expand it as we go). I'll just add mine in one edit, which will hopefully not interfere with yours.

Did you perchance look over what I added so far? Please feel free to make any copyedits you see fit, or let me know if it requires further clarification, context, etc. Dahn (talk) 15:06, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

The hardware problems I mentioned meant that I had to restart the computer. I logged back in, and didn't check to see if my previous message was still around, which is why I inadvertandly left you two messages saying the same. Consider the following as my backup copy :) :

Sorry for the inuse tag, I hope it didn't cause you any inconvenience. I am working on an expansion to cover his literary works, but it took me longer than I had planned and, because of hardware problems, I couldn't remove the tag. I'm glad it did not refrain you for editing, and, in any case, you could still keep it around if you need it. I'll just add from my side in one major edit to occur sometime soon, so I don't really need it any longer. Please feel free to edit any part of the text as you see fit, and let me know if you think my earlier expansion agrees with what you had in mind for the article (if it does not, then just change it as you see fit). Sorry again, and thanks. Dahn (talk) 15:06, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

Well, I'm glad to say that, at this point, we've got at least something on all of Eliade's facets. Much more is needed to cover his literary works (especially the recent ones), and I'm working on finding some proper sources for this. Of course, there's no pressure on you to look over my additions - feel free to comment on them whenever you have the time, and I'll respond as soon as I can.
And, yes, that source would be a great addition. I'm looking forward to seeing the article develop further. Cheers, Dahn (talk) 02:21, 17 January 2008 (UTC)