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Contents 1 Query 2 Deletion of huge, issue-by-issue plot details 3 Film 4 Incorrect statement 5 arch-ememy 6 Fair use rationale for Image:GhostRider western 1.jpg

[edit] Query

Regarding these two sentences:

Magazine Enterpries' trademark on the Ghost Rider name and concept had expired by the time that Marvel had created their own version of the character. Both companies' versions of the character were created and illustrated by artist Dick Ayers.

The phrase "both companies" is used, but wasn't Magazine Enterprises the overall company of publisher Martin Goodman, of which Marvel Comics was a part?
Is there a citation for the claim of copyright lapse?
Roy Thomas and Gary Friedrich are credited writers on the original 1960s Western Ghost Rider series, with co-plotting by Dick Ayers in the "Marvel Method". Is there a citation for Ayers being sole creator?
Thanks for any additional information and References. I'll do what I can in the meanwhile — Tenebrae 09:07, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

I've looked at the Reference section at Ghost Rider, and will import some of the citations here. I'm surprised they weren't here to begin with; that might have answered some of the queries above. - Tenebrae 09:15, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Deletion of huge, issue-by-issue plot details

Per WP:CMC/EG: "Summarization should never be on a per-issue basis and should only outline the plot rather than describe minor details" and "Editors should keep in mind that Wikipedia is not a repository for plot summaries, annotated or otherwise". -- Tenebrae 18:12, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

I'd generally agree - but given that the West Coast Avengers story info (now deleted) involves multiple versions of this character and has a few things to say about who the Phantom Rider 'should' be, it might be worth summarising and incorporating the important bits of that. Opinions? --Mrph 19:57, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Film

I saw the trailer for Ghost Rider, the upcoming movie, and there is a moment where the modern Ghost Rider is riding next to another flaming character riding a nightmare. I presume that's the original Ghost Rider. How does one cite a movie trailer anyway? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.69.138.198 (talk • contribs)

[edit] Incorrect statement

"Although never part of the modern Ghost Rider continuity in Marvel Comics, Carter Slade is depicted as a precursor to Johnny Blaze in the 2007 movie Ghost Rider."

As far as the comics go, UTTER NONSENSE. The "original Ghost Riders" had a crossover in Ghost Rider 50 in 1980. In the (translated) version I have here on my desk both heroes are even introduced as "Ghostrider". 14:22, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

Carter Slade was not a flame-headed Ghost Rider who'd sold his soul to Satan. He was a non-supernatural Old West vigilante, unlike his depiction in the 2007 movie. And please watch your tone. We are civil here. --Tenebrae 19:04, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

"Please watch your tone. We are civil here." Pretty pathetic, huh? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.107.160.234 (talk • contribs)

[edit] arch-ememy

who is phantom rider's arch-enemy?

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:GhostRider western 1.jpg

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BetacommandBot (talk) 23:47, 2 January 2008 (UTC)