User talk:Pfctdayelise

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1 Re: meetup 5
2 Orphaned non-free image (Image:ARIA awards.gif)
3 Melbourne meetup 6
4 On super-seeding Foo1.jpg
- 4.1 Sequel
5 Fair use rationale for Image:Magic Dirt - dirty jeans.ogg
6 Fair use rationale for Image:The Whitlams - No Aphrodisiac sample.ogg
7 Image:Tim Rogers with Twits t-shirt.jpg
8 Fair use rationale for Image:Stupid Girls Pink.jpg
9 Bar chart needed
10 Wiki Meetups
11 Well done ;-)
12 Meetup
13 WikiChix
14 Replaceable fair use Image:The Drones promotional photo.jpg
15 Replaceable fair use Image:John Farnham.jpg
16 philip-and-alex.jpg
17 The Photographer's Barnstar
18 Awesome
19 Re: Wikimedia Australia
20 Aust Barnstar
21 A perfect day-ay-ay
22 Hello!
23 Disputed fair use rationale for Image:Triple J J Award logo.gif
24 Australia 2020 Summit linkspam
25 Your review
26 WMA
27 the Sydney Journal
28 Replaceable fair use Image:Sonya_Hartnett_2006.jpg
29 Red & White Setter
30 editing help

[edit] Re: meetup 5

Hey, how was it?

I was totally intending to go, but I got some unexpected bad news yesterday, so I didn't really feel up to it this morning. pfctdayelise (talk) 02:52, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

It was good. Jimmy riffed on some of the usual topics, particularly Wikipedia and wikis in schools (I believe that's what the conferences have been about), but also some of the recent Australian press coverage - the Ellen Fanning thing, but also a similar incident with Karl Stefanovic. Most of the people there seemed to be interested in the broader issues than the mechanics of the projects, but that was ok. Someone took a few photos, they should be up later in the day :) --bainer (talk) 03:32, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Orphaned non-free image (Image:ARIA awards.gif)

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[edit] Melbourne meetup 6

Hi. This is a reminder to people on the Melbourne meetup participation list that the next meetup has been arranged for 19 June. Could you indicate on the meetup page your likely attendence, or otherwise. Regards. - Cuddy Wifter 23:21, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] On super-seeding Foo1.jpg

see Commons:User talk:Helix84#"Superseeding" ??? any IP. 17:41, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

On average super-seeder's blindness, see also my comment in Image:Peg Solitaire game board shapes.svg; I, besides, declare here that I'm not willing to participate in the seemingly highly sophisticated talk on "superseeding". any IP. 18:17, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Sequel

Besides being fed up with "blind" contributors (I was kicked off deWP recently), I recently uploaded a few pics as "fair use", here. As I am not common with such at all, I please ask you to have a competent person checked the following and to give an opinion (either by mail, or here, or on my talk page) how chances are that they will be kept: Image:Caesar Cardini (Cesare Cardini) 1896-1956.jpg -- Image:Kahn Building San Diego Hillcrest.jpg -- Image:Hotel Caesar's Place, Tijuana, early 1920s.jpg -- Image:Caesar's 'original' or 'hotel' restaurant - Tijuana c.1930.jpg -- Image:Caesar Cardini Cafe, Tijuana, on opening night c1935.jpg -- Image:Hotel Caesar, Tijuana Main Street, 1940s.jpg -- Image:Bix Beiderbecke 1924.jpg. Big "TA". Wolfgang. any IP. 18:03, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Magic Dirt - dirty jeans.ogg

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[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:The Whitlams - No Aphrodisiac sample.ogg

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[edit] Image:Tim Rogers with Twits t-shirt.jpg

I'm using this image at Portal:Music of Australia. Leave me a note if you have any objections. Thanks, Dihydrogen Monoxide (H₂O) 01:34, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

Oops, I didn't notice the uploader and author were different people. *slaps self* Anyways, since it's on Commons, I suppose I can use it anyway - I was just leaving notes informing uploaders that their image was being used. And now that you mention it, I might use Image:TZU - Melbourne BDO 2006.JPG too. Thanks, Dihydrogen Monoxide (H₂O) 21:38, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Stupid Girls Pink.jpg

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[edit] Bar chart needed

It seems that you a dab hand with the timelines coding. Any chance of getting you to turn this used at resource consent into a timeline template? The image gives good information but instead of the bog standrd Micro$oft Excel spreadsheet style we need to have our own native WP style. Micro$oft Excel spreadsheet is so 70's! -- Alan Liefting talk 03:29, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, I had the same plan but I could not find anything suitable. What about the ones at Bar chart#Example? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Alan Liefting (talk • contribs) 10:58, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Wiki Meetups

I've had a read at your meeting results, and am wondering if it is useful for someone (ie me) to come to such meetings when I cannot offer anything to the meeting, and have no idea of what you are talking about (well I do have a general understanding, after reading the melb. meta page and have read a bit about Wikimedia Australia). Hmm... Phgao 15:57, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

Yes for course it is interesting to meet other Wikipedians, and get to know the faces behind the users and what type of day job or interests everyone has. Also, do you choose the city library because it is quieter? Phgao 14:07, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

Great, the next meetup's page has yet to be created, do you think you should create one? [1] Phgao 14:20, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

Oh are you going to 08 AOpen? Phgao 14:25, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

Ah yes, being proactive :) What sort of field are you in (if you don't mind me asking?) Phgao 12:47, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

Ah right, well the page is up... and I'm going to order the name list to alpha order. Um do you work with any specific languages, did you do a IT course? Phgao 13:08, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the info! Have we got any dates set for the next meetup? Phgao 14:08, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

Oops, I see you've already added some! Phgao 14:08, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Well done ;-)

Evening Brianna. I'd like to let you know you did a great job with your interview on the 9AM show this morning, you really showed Australia what it is really about behind the scenes in relation to reverting and other features on-wiki. Kind regards, — E ^talk_BAG 09:34, 23 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Meetup

Thanks for organising a great meetup! Sarah 05:52, 18 November 2007 (UTC)

Me too 05:56, 18 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] WikiChix

So, I've been trying to subscribe to the WikiChix mailing list, because I'm curious about gender discrimination on wikipedia. However, my efforts so far have been unsuccessful. Is the mailing list not operable? Awadewit | talk 22:37, 18 November 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] philip-and-alex.jpg

Hi. See http://philip.greenspun.com/ where the photo is on the front page and attributed to Elsa Dorfman (the uploader). So it's all good. I'll let you replace/update the changes you made ;) -- Quiddity (talk) 07:12, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] The Photographer's Barnstar

		The Photographer's Barnstar
		I hereby present you this barnstar for your excellent images regarding tennis players. Keep it up! OhanaUnited^{Talk page} 15:26, 13 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Awesome

Hi Brianna, just saw you on the TV (via Youtube). Excellent job - you rock :-) 211.31.63.232 (talk) 15:21, 26 December 2007 (UTC) (Ta bu shi da yu - sorry, have scrambled my password as have retired).

Oh dear, it made it to YouTube. Thanks for the kind words :)

Happy New Year --pfctdayelise (talk) 07:03, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Re: Wikimedia Australia

Hello, congrats on the Arbcom election. Unless you let me know otherwise I will assume you are not planning to be significantly involved in chapter planning stuff, e.g. writing model rules. Although your assistance would of course be welcome. --pfctdayelise (talk) 13:11, 29 December 2007 (UTC)

I haven't forgotten about this, I promise :) I should have some time over the weekend to work on it. I've been reading the mailing list threads to try to get some of that worked in. --bainer (talk) 02:37, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Aust Barnstar

		The Australian Barnstar of National Merit
		for your efforts with Australian articles Gnan garra 00:08, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] A perfect day-ay-ay

Ma'am, i sooped up your account with the rollback upgrade pack. :) Now you're special: you're not just an editor, you're a *insert drum roll* rollbacker! Woot! Woot! Congratulations, such an outstanding achievement! And not only that, but you get this cool t-shirt and this useful box:

This user has rollback rights on the English Wikipedia. (verify)

I hope you have a perfect day and see you on Sunday. Cheers, Sarah 16:46, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

Actually, I'm hoping you use it to get into edit wars so I have an excuse to block you! And yes, I'll be bringing you a t-shirt that says: "This person is a Wikipedia Rollbacker". I expect you to wear it with pride! lol Sarah 03:47, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Hello!

Hello, I had seen you before in Chinese Wiki forum, and you had sent me a message before as well. See here http://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Synyan

Just pass by and say hello, also thank you for your comment and efforts on wiki!

Synyan (talk)

[edit] Disputed fair use rationale for Image:Triple J J Award logo.gif

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[edit] Australia 2020 Summit linkspam

Hi Pfctdayelise. The Oz Ideas wiki appears to be very new with very little activity. Per the guidlelines at Wikipedia:External links, I removed the external link as I feel it's inclusion only serves to drive traffic to a website that adds little or no value to the article. Why didn't I remove the link to http://2020summit.org ? I only reviewed the anon edit at the time and undid the most recent edit, that being the inclusion of the Oz Ideas link. I actually think the link to http://2020summit.org/ should be removed for similar reasons but I'll refrain from removing the link should your reasons for adding them outweigh my concerns. I'll await your reply on that one. Both sites hardly qualify as a reliable source of information on the summit so linking them in the article only serves to promote their existence. Cheers. -- Longhair\^talk 11:44, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

Anon bias doesn't come into it. The links are simply external links to third party sites concerning the summit, nothing more. Both links do not appear to be reliable sources. There's plenty of information from reliable sources on the summit that we could use to greatly expand the article. Both links you've suggested have very little to offer. -- Longhair\^talk 00:55, 24 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Your review

Your review of Wikipedia: The Missing Manual was excellent. (As for other comments about it on my user talk page, I did get a barnstar and a comment about that, so your comment was number three, I think.) To address a couple of points of puzzlement:

The omission of WP:IAR was deliberate, because, as you noted, the book is primarily intended for new editors and those with limited experience. For them, I think IAR is more a distraction or even misleading (underneath IAR is the concept of doing what helps the project, regardless of rules; editors with little experience don't have the deeper understanding of Wikipedia, I think, that helps them judge when IAR should kick in). It was a useful rule in the early days, when there wasn't a thicket of intricately fought-over policies and guidelines, and it's still a useful reminder to those with a lot of experience, but for someone new, it's just a potentially confusing meta thing.

As for images, part of the explanation of what the books says (and what it doesn't cover) is that this area isn't one that I regularly work in. But more importantly, I think the issue of fair use is (a) gnarly, (b) changing, and (c) only going to continue down the path of permitting less and less fair use. The simplest way to deal with images - the approach I took - was to ignore uploading to en.wikipedia, in favor of uploading to the commons, which doesn't permit fair use at all. Given space constraints, I'd almost certainly have done that even if I didn't think (b) and (c) were true.

Finally, what I wrote about Wikipedia was limited by the approach that O'Reilly/Pogue Press takes in the Missing Manual series. In my draft there was, for example, a chapter on how decisions get made at Wikipedia; that didn't make the final cut because it wasn't tutorial (step-by-step) oriented, as was (is) the rest of the book, and the MM series in general. So the book has nothing about how policies and guidelines come about or change (rough consensus), or the underlying philosophy about not voting, or Wikipedia's libertarian (at least to me) underpinnings. I would expect to see much more of that in the forthcoming How Wikipedia Works, which will be interesting to compare. -- John Broughton (♫♫) 13:41, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

I'm hoping that sales of the book will be enough to justify a second edition, ideally to be published near the end of 2008. I do want to expand it, with additional chapters on bots, customized software for editing Wikipedia, and specialized vandal-fighting tools, plus a chapter on how policy and guidelines can be changed. And fixes to things like the error that you pointed out regarding free content licensing. But, as noted above, I'm constrained by the MM approach - as fascinating as I find Wikipedia, philosophy and background stories don't fit into the book. (But no "sequel".)

RfAs are actually already covered (page 197); I have doubts that IAR will ever be, for reasons stated above. I'll be very interested in how the second book on Wikipedia (May 2008 scheduled publishing date), How Wikipedia Works, handles this; perhaps I'll change my mind when I see their approach. -- John Broughton (♫♫) 13:14, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

Right, that's another topic - How can I become an admin? - that I don't intend to touch with a ten-foot pole. We already have enough folks who think that Wikipedia is something like a video game - score enough points (edits, successful CSDs, whatever) and you get promoted to the next level. The only admins I personally want at Wikipedia are those who consider the matter to be no big deal - being an admin allows them to do more, and be more useful, but if they never got it, or lost it, they'd still be editing because editing makes them feel good - it's fun, educational, contributes to a larger good, whatever. If someone is good enough to be an admin, I think that either (a) they'll figure that out, or (b) other editors will recognize it and make the suggestion. So putting the matter in the book is only going to increase the percentage of RfA candidates who (a) fail, (b) pass but are a higher risk to the project, or (c) do few or no edits once they've gotten their "promotion". -- John Broughton (♫♫) 13:57, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

Regarding the Commons and media, it seems clear to me that audio and video are going to play a larger and larger role in Wikipedia as time goes on, albeit (for the forseeable future) less important than text and images. Audio and video got all of two paragraphs mention in the book (page 291); that's something I'd like to expand on in the next version. I'll make a note of your offer (thanks!) and hope to take advantage of it later this year. -- John Broughton (♫♫) 13:27, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

Regarding Wikipedia:WikiProject Spoken Wikipedia, I did add it at some point to the Editor's index, so in that sense I do know about it. But it is a neat project, I agree; I've made a note to myself to add it to chapter 9 (page 167, bottom), unless it goes somewhere else in the book. -- John Broughton (♫♫) 14:01, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] WMA

		The Australian Barnstar of National Merit
		For your work in establishing Wikimedia Australia. Long live the cabal! :) dihydrogen monoxide (H₂0) 23:09, 4 March 2008 (UTC)
		_{this WikiAward was given to Pfctdayelise by dihydrogen monoxide (H₂0) on 23:09, 4 March 2008 (UTC)}

[edit] the Sydney Journal

Hi there, Just thought I'd drop you, and the other people at the meetup, a line and mention that the first edition of the Dictionary of Sydney's online, peer-reviewed journal is now live.

The Sydney Journal is the first (and most academically rigorous) "product" of the Dictionary. It will be a quarterly publication with a variety of texts from upcoming Dictionary articles and is hosted by UTS E-press. This edition features 4 thematic articles, 6 ethnicities and 5 suburbs - all specifically related to Sydney.

I hope you find it useful and interesting - If nothing else it's essays are eminently referenceable for their corresponding articles here on WP.

Best, Witty Lama 12:55, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

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[edit] Red & White Setter

Two years ago you posted a question at Talk:Irish Red and White Setter, the answer is "yes" in case you've give up hope of a reply :) There are a few other photos on the webpage you linked to and they show better images of the body shape and feathering, the face view you posted isn't clear just on its own. AWoodland (talk) 22:36, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] editing help

Hi there again!

A university class I've been trying to convince to get involved in using WP in their class has today agreed to do so. In the class they rewrote the text of Religious Nationalism. I was wondering if you could have a look at it and edit it mercilessly (as the saying goes). Perhaps if you could convince others to get in on the act too that would be great.

Here is the diff of the edit they made [2].

Thanks for your help,

Witty Lama 11:00, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

Please note that the section Religious Nationalism has now been separated from the main article Nationalism into its own article Religious nationalism. Please join in and help bring this newly formed article up to standard. Especially important is avoiding a Systemic Bias and adding Citations.

All the best, Witty Lama 04:58, 25 April 2008 (UTC)