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[edit] About the '0'

Here are some pictures of old models, to complete the explanation for the central '0' that would have been made for the starting handle:

401: http://www.motorimania.it/manifestazioni/auto_storiche/images_peugeot/b_peugeot_401_11.jpg
601: http://www.amicale-peugeot.ch/Bilder%20Fahrzeugtypen/601_1.jpg
We can clearly see that the hole is not in the model plate

302 : http://appassionato.fiat.free.fr/salon/DCP_0325.jpg
Here we see that the '0' is used for both model number and as an hole

Antp 09:49, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Pronunciation

Currently on the article: « The common French pronunciation of "Peugeot" is "POOzho" (IPA 'puːʒʊ). »

Not at all, I never heard any French speaker use this pronunciation. It is 'pø:ʒo (using IPA characters commonly used in French; I do not know what "ʊ" should sound like).

I do not know how to translate the "ø" in English-like ("U" ?), that's why I post this here rather than editing the article (I'll edit it anyway in few days if I do not get any reply here).

Antp 15:51, 22 Jun 2005 (UTC)

I think it's pronounced "Per-zhou" (zhou sounding like joe but without the soft "G") in French. In Australia, we pronounce it like that, occasionally with the normal "J" sound.

Nope, the way it's pronounced in French is the way it currently says in the article. I've heard it many times. --Jamieli 12:36, 7 September 2005 (UTC)

Could anyone record how to pronounce Peugeot in French and English please.

Here is a recording of the French version: peugeot.wav
My microphone does not seem to work very well when recording, thought it works well with Skype. The "g" may sound a little :like a "z" in this recording, but it should not. -- Antp 21:54, 10 October 2005 (UTC)
I updated the pronunciation sections. I removed the Danish and Greek pronunciations. This is an article written in English about a French car company. French and English are the only pronunciations needed. If we added in other pronunciations, the page would never end. Someone had added an American pronunciation "poo-got", but I removed this. I'm sure there are some people who might say this, but this would definitely be considered "incorrect", in the sense that if a person were to say that, someone would surely correct them. It would be the equivalent of pronouncing the "t" in "Chevrolet" - I'm sure it's been done, but no one would say that's the usual or "correct" pronunciation. Also, the French pronunciation should be correct now (I edited it earlier), but let me know if anything seems wrong with it. --SameerKhan 02:40, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] 307 LX UK cars converted from Europe's stock

The front screen wipers for the 307 LX is badly designed for UK users. The driver side wiper cannot reach close to the edge of the screen and leaves quite a big area unclear during driving in a rainy or snowy day. The blocked area is measured about 5 inches from the side and 7-8 inches from the top. The wiper on the driver side is shorter than the one on the left thus the passenager side can have a better view than the driver. Driver of this model has to move to the centre while driving in a bad weather, it is very dangerous and uncomfortable. It is redicious for Peugeot to sell problematic car by ignoring the safety and comfortableness issues.

Having written to complain (email) about the faulty design, the response is that the design was under the safety regulation with 80% visible area. However, the 80% visible area is on the passenger side. Having raised this issue with the Peugeot dealer, Belmont, staff agreed that this model was converted from European stock. It is impossible to change the front screen wipers. This is the way it is!

Can anyone comment on this? Is it common for car manufacturers to convert European cars for use in UK can without thorough thinking? What is the customers right after purchase?

[edit] Edit in model numbers

I'd like to know why the following was removed by Arpingstone from the "model numbers" chapter:

But the real first models (like the 301, 401 and 601) were not using this "trick". Only later models, like 302 and 402, have this feature.

As it was an indication about the fact that this story about the 0 used first for the staring handle was in fact more an urban legend.

Antp 21:12, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

Simple! I couldn't understand what was being said so, rather than have that para look amateur, I removed it. You are perfectly welcome to put it back if you can make what it says understandable - Adrian Pingstone 14:34, 18 May 2006 (UTC)
I am not a native English speaker, so I cannot do a much better sentence, sorry. I mean that the first Peugeot models with a 0 in their name (301, 401, 601) did not have the starting handle hole in the "0", unlike the 302 and 402 (which are newer models). So model numbers with a 0 in the middle were not chosed for this purpose (see the pictures that I posted above). Antp 14:54, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Add the mopeds!

Peugeot used 101,102, and 103 for their models of mopeds from 1960s through the 1990s! Please add this! It's funny and interesting that they continued to 104 as a car! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 71.215.140.12 (talk) 03:38, 21 March 2007 (UTC).

[edit] Chrysler Europe

I deleted the following: "Unlike Citroën, Chrysler Europe had no current designs and its factories were worn out."

I can't speak definitively to Chrysler Europe's facilities; I also doubt anyone can cite a reliable source that describes their condition in 1978. However, how could Chrysler Europe have "no" current designs when the Horizon was introduced in 1978, the same year Peugeot took over? "Current" is something of a subjective term, but surely a basically all-new vehicle which won the Car of the Yearin 1979 would be current in 1978.

[edit] C'est l'hemi?

Can anybody substantiate something? I've heard the 345 hemi design went to Simca & was built in Europe for years, including in tank/armored car engines, then ended up in Brazil as a 137ci. True? Include it? Trekphiler (talk) 13:29, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Really old cars

Thankfully enough, the large number of historic Peugeot models (from 1889 to 1944) have their links all properly categorized. That may not be very helpful anyway, since some of the models are merely different bodywork of the same essential car and don't deserve their own page. However, few of the Peugeot cars of this era have articles at all, and the ones that do are all towards the end of the period. My interest in Peugeot is limited and my experience nonexistent; but I do hate that big sea of red that accompanies a timeline full of links with no articles behind them. I've already made small entries for the Type 3 and the Type 54 and hopefully others will be interested in filling in the gaps and making an appropriate article or section of an article for each model. Chaparral2J (talk) 13:02, 5 May 2008 (UTC)