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[edit] User talk:Anthony cfc

Thank you for recognising un-sourced quotes on my talk page; please don't remove them in future. The quote has been restored; kindly keep it that way.

Regards,
Anthonycfc [T • C] 02:19, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

Why did you remove this post as a "personal attack"; I am afraid that, counter to your edit summary, I don't understand why you have done this. I have tried to remain civil - are you unwilling to provide an editor to a reason why you removed a key notice on his talk page; those words mean a lot to me and, since I chose them for my almost-completely-parting words, I don't think it is fitting to blank remove them. I await your reply; Anthonycfc [T • C] 17:01, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
I think I've disengaged enough now; may we please discuss this as civil and mature Wikipedians? Anthonycfc [T • C] 21:09, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
  • It is simple. You posted a personal attack on my talk page. I removed it. Post another personal attack, and I will remove that too. Be civil, and you won't have a problem. ✎ Peter M Dodge ( Talk to Me • Neutrality Project ) 23:40, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
I very much beg to differ; would you mind quoting my personal attack? Thanks a lot. Anthonycfc [T • C] 00:11, 30 January 2007 (UTC)
My condolences over your experiences, and I wish to express my regret that you are departing us. Take care. Anthonycfc [T • C] 00:13, 30 January 2007 (UTC)
Calling someone a hypocrite isn't very nice. Especially since I explicitly asked Essjay if I could use it. You know, he's very liberal about that, you just have to ask him, and credit him. It's kind of why it irked me that you didn't credit him, it's all he asks. I was a little subtle about mine, other than a blurb in the introduction box - if you look in the wikicode of my page, it is still there:
“ This userpage is sourced from several pages - the en.wikipedia main page adaptation by HereToHelp, elements of Essjay's userpage, elements of Elaragirl's page and the mainpage of gd.wikipedia, the scot's gaelic wikipedia ”
As I said, all he asks is you credit him, so it was kind of aggravating that you didn't. Cheers, ✎ Peter M Dodge ( Talk to Me • Neutrality Project ) 00:17, 30 January 2007 (UTC)
If you are referring to my edit summary, I was simply trying to put a face of humour on what could be a dispute (and now is). You might notice the ":P" after it - I was not calling you a hypocrite. I have never done that, and I never intend to. Please do understand what I am saying; also, I have a request for you - please don't blank delete my comments like you did last time. It shows what could be interpreted by somebody more liberal than myself as bad faith - however, I do not doubt your commitment to the encyclopedia. Nevertheless, the way you have handled this dispute, and the number of disputes on this page, do call the finer touches of your civility into question. For the record, I have removed the quote - I do not wish to respect your wishes, unless Essjay becomes involved. I hope you understand where I am coming from, and I hope that you do not think I have bitten. I await your reply. Kind regards, Anthonycfc [T • C] 19:17, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

I am empowered to remove comments I do not wish to deal with from my user page. You could go for a lot more tact, yourself. Here's a piece of advice: whenever you question someone else's civility, examine your own actions. More often than not, people are only reacting to other's actions. ✎ Peter M Dodge ( Talk to Me • Neutrality Project ) 21:16, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

For example, this could have been discussed first. More often than not, people are only reacting to other's actions. David D. (Talk) 22:40, 30 January 2007 (UTC)
Essjay had already told Anthony not to use his essays or quotes without attributing him. ✎ Peter M Dodge ( Talk to Me • Neutrality Project ) 22:45, 30 January 2007 (UTC)
That's different then. In that case it might be good practice to clarify such edits with a more complete summary. Without that context your edit does look provocative to a third party. David D. (Talk) 22:49, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

Unfortunately there's only so much you can put in an edit summary. The relevant discourse is here User_talk:Anthony_cfc/Essays. Cheers, ✎ Peter M Dodge ( Talk to Me • Neutrality Project ) 22:58, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

You'd be surprised how much you can get into an edit summary. David D. (Talk) 00:18, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
For the record, I am now striving on this page to maintain my lack of personal attacks that I have upheld since joining w:en (despite your claims to the contrary.) It is obvious that we are a clash of personalities - we both wish to be correct (understandably) and we would clearly not get along well face-to-face, so why should it be different online. I will not follow this argument up; however, as you may see if you actually read the essay discussion, the essay page was a work in progress - admittedly, it should have been in the sandbox, but I accidentally did not implement the stand-in version to the page, instead I placed what was in essence Essjay's policy on my neutrality page. At the end of the day, it was an accident. Also, may I point out WP:OWN - you do not "own" this page, so I'm afraid to say you are not "empowered to remove comments" as you claim. At the end of the day, you are clearly not co-operating in this dispute and I have no wish to converse with you further on this. Thank you for responding to my comments, and I wish you all the best in your editing career. Regards, Anthonycfc [T • C] 17:17, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
I'd like to thank User:David D. - your input in the matter is most appreciated; thank you for your maturity and standing up for what is right. Anthonycfc [T • C] 17:17, 31 January 2007 (UTC)