Talk:Peter Pan (1953 film)

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

	Film Portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Films. This project is a central gathering of editors working to build comprehensive and detailed articles for film topics on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, you can edit the article attached to this page, or visit the project page, where you can join the project and/or contribute to the discussion.
B This article has been rated as B-Class on the quality scale. ??? This article has not yet received a rating on the priority scale.
Editing Guidelines Please remember these guidelines when editing a film article: If a non-film article already exists with the name of the film that you are trying to create an article for, disambiguate and use (film) in the title: Film Title (film) For more information see: Wikipedia:Naming conventions (films) When writing an article about a particular film, the general format should be a concise lead section, followed by a plot summary of no more than 900 words, production details, a cast list, a reception section, and references. Create an Infobox that tells all pertinent information about the film.
Additional Information: This article has been checked against the following criteria for B-Class status: Referencing and citation: not checked Coverage and accuracy: not checked Structure: not checked Grammar: not checked Supporting materials: not checked To fill out this checklist, please add the following to the template call: <!-- 1. It is suitably referenced, and all major points are appropriately cited. --> |B-Class-1=yes/no <!-- 2. It reasonably covers the topic, and does not contain major omissions or inaccuracies. --> |B-Class-2=yes/no <!-- 3. It has a defined structure, including a lead section and one or more sections of content. --> |B-Class-3=yes/no <!-- 4. It is free from major grammatical errors. --> |B-Class-4=yes/no <!-- 5. It contains appropriate supporting materials, such as an infobox, images, or diagrams. --> |B-Class-5=yes/no

	Musical Theatre Portal Peter Pan (1953 film) is part of WikiProject Musical Theatre, organized to improve and complete musical theatre articles and coverage on Wikipedia. You can edit the article attached to this page, or visit the project page, where you can join the project and see a list of open tasks.
Start	This article has been rated as Start Class
WikiProject Musical Theatre tasks: Help out with one of the WikiProject Musical Theatre tasks below. You may add your name to the Participants list to the right. edit this Open Tasks template Collaborate and work on the Collaboration of the Month Articles needing a content fork Mainly, these are articles on films and either their source or subsequent musicals. There are a couple where the musical needs to be "forked" from the source material. Feel free to add or remove as necessary. Important: If you split an article, please make sure that you move all the relevant links from the first article to the new one. To find which links to move, click on "What links here" at the old article and look through the list to see which links should be pointed to the film related link (for example, articles on actors in the film). Then, click on those links and update them to point to the film article. Thanks! Don't Play Us Cheap Roberta How to Succeed in Business Without Really Trying I Married an Angel Lady in the Dark The Band Wagon - musical adaptation will to be forked after it opens in April.

	Disney Portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Disney, an attempt to build a comprehensive and detailed guide to articles on Disney on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, you can edit the article attached to this page, or visit the project page, where you can join the project and/or contribute to the discussion.
???	This article has not yet received a rating on the quality scale.
???	This article has not yet received a rating on the importance scale.
	If you have rated this article please consider adding assessment comments.

Contents 1 Quit editing the controversy 2 Peter Pan 1990 previews 3 Fair use rationale for Image:Joining The Pirates.jpg 4 Other prints 5 Songs list 6 Fair use rationale for Image:PeterpanRKO.jpg 7 Fair use rationale for Image:PeterpanRKO.jpg 8 Tiger Lily's Voice? 9 NPOV Says Yes, the Portrayal of Indians in Peter Pan is Regarded As Controversy

[edit] Quit editing the controversy

Watch the video, and know the lyrics to the racist song what made the red men red. Quit doing this to credit because Peter Pan is a classic favorite. The truth must be spoken

Find Sources. See WP:V, WP:NOR. Verifiability trumps truth around here. —Bunchofgrapes (talk) 19:03, 12 September 2006 (UTC)

Sources don't need to be online bucko.

They must be cited though. Also see WP:NPOV. —Bunchofgrapes (talk) 20:00, 12 September 2006 (UTC)

The whole section should be removed, given the lyrics quoted are incorrect. The correct lyrics can be seen here [1] Sasaki 10:34, 15 September 2006 (UTC)

Its not just the song that caused controversy but the entire depiction of the indians, who were portrayed and slouching, half-naked men with cherry-red skin. The stereotypical "how" and "ugg" are just a part of it. 68.44.251.120 18:43, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

Until there is specific evidence that Walt Disney's Peter Pan has caused any actual "controversy", I feel this should be left out of the article. The depiction of Native Americans in the film and the song "What Made the Red Man Red" are arguably offensive, but Wikipedia is neutral and one's personal opinion about such things don't belong. Another Disney film, Song of the South, has never been released on video or DVD in the United States because of the racial controversy it has drawn; Peter Pan, on the other hand, has been released multiple times with no such widespread reaction. Placeandtime 05:30, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

Look here, yes there has been reactions to the song and depiction of Indians, and it was even questionable if the DVD 2002's release was ever going to happen. Kevin j 16:29, 13 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Peter Pan 1990 previews

1. Red FBI Screens

2. Coming To Theatres

3. Making of Rescuers Down Under Trailer

4. Now On Videocassette

5. Little Mermaid Trailer

6. Walt Disney Classics logo (1989-1992)

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Joining The Pirates.jpg

Image:Joining The Pirates.jpg is being used on this article. I notice the image page specifies that the image is being used under fair use but there is no explanation or rationale as to why its use in this Wikipedia article constitutes fair use. In addition to the boilerplate fair use template, you must also write out on the image description page a specific explanation or rationale for why using this image in each article is consistent with fair use.

Please go to the image description page and edit it to include a fair use rationale. Using one of the templates at Wikipedia:Fair use rationale guideline is an easy way to insure that your image is in compliance with Wikipedia policy, but remember that you must complete the template. Do not simply insert a blank template on an image page.

If there is other other fair use media, consider checking that you have specified the fair use rationale on the other images used on this page. Note that any fair use images uploaded after 4 May, 2006, and lacking such an explanation will be deleted one week after they have been uploaded, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. If you have any questions please ask them at the Media copyright questions page. Thank you.BetacommandBot 06:25, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Other prints

• What are the previews for the other prints ? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Matthew Cantrell (talk • contribs) 00:34, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Songs list

I removed the song "Yo Ho (A Pirate's Life For Me)" from the songs list and replaced it with "The Elegant Captain Hook", which was not on the list beforehand and belonged in that spot. "Yo Ho (A Pirate's Life For Me)" is actually the theme song of the Pirates of the Caribbean attraction in the various Disney parks and has nothing to do with the film Peter Pan, although it is similar to another song from that movie, "A Pirate's Life", which remains on the list with its correct title and spot in the songs' order in the film. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Placeandtime (talk • contribs) 17:39, 28 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:PeterpanRKO.jpg

Image:PeterpanRKO.jpg is being used on this article. I notice the image page specifies that the image is being used under fair use but there is no explanation or rationale as to why its use in this Wikipedia article constitutes fair use. In addition to the boilerplate fair use template, you must also write out on the image description page a specific explanation or rationale for why using this image in each article is consistent with fair use.

Please go to the image description page and edit it to include a fair use rationale. Using one of the templates at Wikipedia:Fair use rationale guideline is an easy way to insure that your image is in compliance with Wikipedia policy, but remember that you must complete the template. Do not simply insert a blank template on an image page.

If there is other fair use media, consider checking that you have specified the fair use rationale on the other images used on this page. Note that any fair use images uploaded after 4 May, 2006, and lacking such an explanation will be deleted one week after they have been uploaded, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. If you have any questions please ask them at the Media copyright questions page. Thank you.

BetacommandBot (talk) 20:05, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:PeterpanRKO.jpg

Image:PeterpanRKO.jpg is being used on this article. I notice the image page specifies that the image is being used under fair use but there is no explanation or rationale as to why its use in this Wikipedia article constitutes fair use. In addition to the boilerplate fair use template, you must also write out on the image description page a specific explanation or rationale for why using this image in each article is consistent with fair use.

Please go to the image description page and edit it to include a fair use rationale. Using one of the templates at Wikipedia:Fair use rationale guideline is an easy way to insure that your image is in compliance with Wikipedia policy, but remember that you must complete the template. Do not simply insert a blank template on an image page.

If there is other fair use media, consider checking that you have specified the fair use rationale on the other images used on this page. Note that any fair use images uploaded after 4 May, 2006, and lacking such an explanation will be deleted one week after they have been uploaded, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. If you have any questions please ask them at the Media copyright questions page. Thank you.

BetacommandBot (talk) 20:44, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

Fair use rationale template has been added. --Linda (talk) 05:05, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Tiger Lily's Voice?

There's no voice actress listed for Tiger Lily, even though she does have one word of dialogue ("Help!") Lee M (talk) 04:59, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

That's probably because she's not credited in the film. -JasonAQuest (talk) 13:20, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

OK... but does anyone know? Lee M (talk) 17:30, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] NPOV Says Yes, the Portrayal of Indians in Peter Pan is Regarded As Controversy

Historians have regarded this, and it is reliable therefore. It's been over a year since I mentioned it, but now it is time to bring the Controversy section back. Placeandtime, if you've come back to discuss this, no it is a neutral fact that there is controversy.Kevin j (talk) 18:05, 29 March 2008 (UTC)