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[edit] Date of Birth

Where has the new date of birth for Peter come from? I added the November 30 birth date, confirmed by his user profile on Lionhead [1] (bottom left). Whether he filled out that date seriously/correctly I don't know, but I've found little information elsewhere. But where has the May 5th date come from? DavidR1991 18:03, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Theme Hospital

I added Theme Hospital LooieENG 00:44, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

Why did it get removed? LooieENG 21:55, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Rated

I believe this article warrants a biography class rating of Start, as it's reasonable in terms of his professional life. IMO the obvious elements that are missing - personal life, more detail - are probably not appropriate for a living person... Rivimey 00:54, 5 January 2007 (UTC) rivimey 5/1/07

[edit] OBE

I did some searching and I believe that Molyneux is only the 2nd person to receive an OBE for service to arcade/computer/video games. The first was Jez San (2002), who was recommended by Richard Bartle. [2] Interestingly, Bartle also recommended Molyneux in that same email. [3] --Mrwojo 17:49, 3 Jan 2005 (UTC)


[edit] Not a game designer?

I just deleted this paragraph added by anonymous contributor 81.105.29.57.

There has been considerable controversy in recent years over how much actual design work Peter Molyneux does on his games. The number of titles that have been associated with his name over the past 15 years far exceed those of any other celebrity designer. Further investigation into the history of key projects like Syndicate have shown that Molyneux's involvement has often been light or non-existent in many projects associated with his name. [Edge magazine's 'The Making of Syndicate article'] Syndicate is one of Molyneux's best known games, but also one that he actually had only tangental involvement in. In this respect, Molyneux's true role in the games industry appears to have been much more akin to a 'high-concept' executive producer than a nuts and bolts designer like Will Wright or Shigeru Miyamoto.
Molyneux has recently credited himself as 'executive designer' on key titles like The Movies, suggesting a tacit acceptance on his part that he is not really a game designer in the industry-accepted sense of the term.

I think this criticism is unfounded and maybe biased. Reasons:

  • Molyneux's credits do not exceed those of any other celebrity designer. About ten titles for which he is credited as designer in 16 years is not really much.
  • Syndicate: Molyneux does not claim to have designed it: the credits list him as Producer (see MobyGames). If people say Syndicate is a "Molyneux game", that's their fault, not his.
  • The comparison to Shigeru Miyamoto I find especially ludicrous. Miyamoto's name is on dozens and dozens of games. He can not have had deep involvement in each of them. Most of them list him as Producer, just like Molyneux on Syndicate.
  • And the notion that he is not really a game designer? Please, that is ridiculous. The games which list him as designer (like Populous, Theme Park, Dungeon Keeper) are all considered ground-breaking and were highly acclaimed.

I think I will add the roles he had in each game's production to the game list, so that it is clear which games he designed and which not. TerokNor 12:32, 8 December 2005 (UTC)

Agreed, the paragraph was very biased. However, it makes me think that the article could be more specific on Molyneux' involvement on certain projects. Lionhead has had multiple parallel productions since Black & White, which has turned Molyneux into more of an inspirator/producer (and company figurehead) rather than a lead designer. Dean and Simon Carter are likely to have done more design work on Fable than Molyneux. The same goes for Mark Webley and Adrian Moore's work on The Movies.

Also, there's also no mention of the cancelled B.C. project. Technitai 15:44, 20 December 2005 (UTC)

-- Molyneux was credited as a producer on Syndicate Wars while at Bullfrog in addition to Syndicate, although I only see Syndicate listed here. Moppet 20:51, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Bournemouth University

Peter Molyneux went to Bournemouth University, I have seen him in the famous alumni display. I can't find any references on the internet that can confirm this though. - ARC GrittTALK 01:13, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Video Games

The article claims he was selling video games in 1982 but didn't hear about their popularity until 1984 - this makes no sense.

[edit] Merge from The Entrepreneur (computer game)

I suggest that content from the article The Entrepreneur (computer game), as that article is primarily about Molyneux's career, and not the game itself. Alansohn (talk) 20:39, 25 December 2007 (UTC)

  • I have edited the article to focus more on the game. In the "Importance" subsection, the detour into discussion of his career is used to preface the statement that The Entrepreneur indirectly led him to founding Bullfrog. This is not original research, as the GameSpot article makes the assessment. JimmyBlackwing (talk) 05:06, 26 December 2007 (UTC)
    • I'm not suggesting that the article is OR. I question if there is enough meat to justify a standalone article, and that the material would fit well in the Molyneux article. The recent edits are an improvement, but may not be enough to pass muster. It would seem to me that merging the two articles would result in one better article, with greater context for the game and for its creator. Alansohn (talk) 05:12, 26 December 2007 (UTC)


[edit] Something wrong with Before Bullfrog

Theres something wrong with this part. According to this Interview (http://www.xbox.com/en-US/games/f/fable/themakers.htm) he first published The Entrepreneur and then founded Taurus. What's right now? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.49.22.135 (talk) 16:17, 24 February 2008 (UTC)


[edit] reference

The first reference link is no longer active.--75.45.122.175 (talk) 04:06, 17 January 2008 (UTC)