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[edit] Creation

On July 1 2007, I have created a page for Prof. Peter Lyman, who is one of the most important living ethnographers in the US - he is a renowed professor at UC Berkeley, where he worked for many decades - he has written a series of seminal and influential books and papers regarding the nature of information - please expand and edit Prof. Lyman's biographical details - This article needs additional references or sources for verification (matteo)

Check out WP:PROF for some pointers on making a more clear case for his notability. If you can get a couple of third party, verifiable sources to back up what you've said above, the proposed deletion will be withdrawn. MrZaiustalk 07:33, 1 July 2007 (UTC)

Thank you. I will get the additional information asap (matteo).

-- Mimiito 04:01, 3 July 2007 (UTC) I just edited the entry adding more biographical information and updating the article to reflect the fact that Lyman is now deceased.

[edit] To-do

  • Clean up, standardize, and organize publication list (reverse chronologically?) -- DPerkel 05:19, 3 July 2007 (UTC)
  • Add references and supporting materials


[edit] Case for "notability"

-- DPerkel 17:14, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

  • The businessweek source is a decent start, but it only makes cursory mention of the subject. Seems like there's a fair number of alternatives here: [1] MrZaiustalk 17:48, 3 July 2007 (UTC)
  • According to WP:PROF, one of the criteria for notability for an academic is: "The person has published a significant and well-known academic work. An academic work may be significant or well known if, for example, it is the basis for a textbook or course, if it is itself the subject of multiple, independent works, if it is widely cited by other authors in the academic literature." According to a a google scholar search, How Much Information (the executive summary combined with the full report) has been cited over 350 times. With regard to number of citations, this puts this particular work on par with Barry Wellman's most cited work on Google Scholar with respect to number of citations. (Thanks, A.)
happy to help. :) --Andicat 21:36, 3 July 2007 (UTC)
  • According to WP:PROF, "An academic repeatedly quoted in newspapers or newsmagazines may be considered to meet criterion 1. A small number of quotations, especially in local newsmedia, is not unexpected for academics and so falls short of this mark." A quick search on Google's News Archives (thanks, User:MrZaius) helps demonstrate notability along these lines. (I have not yet read through all of them to decide which are worth using as references in the article itself, but the number of times mentioned and quoted in the press supports the case for notability.) -- DPerkel 18:22, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

ACK - struck the note and ref templates. MrZaiustalk 19:46, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

I'm very encouraged to see that this was worked out. It would be so very terribly ironic if Peter wasn't notable enough for Wikipedia. (He was a true champion of people-produced information phenomena.) -- Joebeone (Talk) 03:39, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Classification

I have classified this article as a start. Well done to those involved in developing this. Capitalistroadster 09:05, 7 July 2007 (UTC)