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Uh, hey guys? MAX Wisdom is not in an alternate universe. It's still 616, as evidenced by his various phone calls to Kitty Pryde and other Marvel characters.



Could whoever added the quote please attribute proper citation for it? (I'm not even sure it should be in the article proper; maybe Wikiquote: Warren Ellis might be a better place for it.) Fastbak77 06:53, 28 September 2005 (UTC)

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[edit] Hungerford

When I woke up this morning, I wanted to add the datum that his mother was killed in the Hungerford massacre (which she was; apparently Ben Raab hadn't realized this was a historical event and tried to portray the killer as having been superpowered). However, now that I'm more conscious, I'm wondering if that's genuinely relevant to the article. Thoughts? DS 12:58, 29 September 2005 (UTC)

  • Given that Warren Ellis had referred to the death of Wisdom's mother early on in his run on Excalibur (circa #90), it's certainly a defining point in Wisdom's history, and thus relevant to the article. Fastbak77 03:40, 30 September 2005 (UTC)
Where and when did the Ben Raab gaffe occur? Kelvingreen 10:39, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
Either way, why does this particular piece of character backstory appear in the article? It's been referred to in Marvel comics several times. 89.168.28.45 21:04, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Mary Sue

Should there be some mention of the speculation that Wisdom is a Mary Sue of Warren Ellis?

No, because speculation doesn't really belong in Wikipedia. Unless, if I recall correctly, you got a link to a professional comic book writer critiquing the work or maybe Ellis saying something to the same effect. Lots42 08:00, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Constantine

Hasn't there been some quote, probably from Warren Ellis, that Pete Wisdom was created as an analog of John Constantine? -- AvatarMN 23:20, 2 July 2007 (UTC)

Eh, sounds doubtful to me. After all, Ellis did mock Con-job in the Pryde and Wisdom limited series. Lots42 08:02, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Wisdom's mom continuities badly written

Okay, let's take this by list.

1) Wisdom's mom was detailed as having been shot by a madman in the Pryde and Wisdom limited series.

2) Why can't an alternate universe Peter call alternate universe Kitty Pryde? The existence of Kitty doesn't mean the MAX series takes place on Earth 616.

3) And last but most importantly, the -entire- article is all sorts of weird. The Fictional Character biography is broken up into multiple, redundant sections! I wouldn't even know where in the crying out loud to -begin-.

Lots42 08:05, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

Hi. I don't have an account, but felt I needed to comment on this article. Firstly it is neccesary to mention that at no point whatsoever has the Wisdom MAX series ever been publicly labelled as out of continuity. And now that Paul Cornell has been given writing chores on Excalibur I should imagine that this will become even clearer so.

I also find the comment upon Kitty Pryde's age to be a little misleading. Ellis was arguably not the first or ewven second writer to wriute Kity in this age range on Excalibur. Lobdell did before him, And Alan Davis quite intentionally drew Kity as slightly older than her Uncanny X-Men appearances from the very start of Excalibur - based on the appearance of Cathryne Hepburn.

It should also be noted that Wisdom did indeed fake his death in X-Force. Alistaire Stuart knew about it, as he was in on the act, but it was never revealed to X-Force in any way shape or form, so to say that they were shocked is simply not true. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.149.10.88 (talk) 00:26, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

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BetacommandBot (talk) 03:23, 12 February 2008 (UTC)