User talk:Per Abrahamsen

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Hello Per, welcome to Wikipedia. Here are some open tasks that you might be interested in:

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If you have any questions, you can ask at the help desk or on my talk page. Angela. 19:08, Aug 19, 2004 (UTC)

M-x all-hail-emacs -- CYD


I moved Morten Frost from Danish Sportspeople to Badminton Players. While I agree with your argument of precedent, I still think that Danish Sportspeople ought to include everyone and not just those who don't fit in a sub-category. Men måske syntes du ikke ligeså. --SVTCobra 02:09, 7 October 2005 (UTC)


Hejsa :)

Nej jeg ved ikke ret meget om det tekniske, prøvede bl.a. med lidt autodidakt template, men løb sur i hvordan man 'submit'er dem når man er færdig, f.eks. til cycling kategorien, hvordan har du lavet den for Team CSC (skidefedt, forresten!) ? Poulsen 17:11, 1 November 2005 (UTC)

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[edit] Cycling-related cleanups and expansions

Thanks for the help in cleaning up and expanding the cycling-related articles! Julius.kusuma 18:04, 29 November 2005 (UTC)

You are welcome. We are not that many working on road bike cycling outside the Tour de France season. --Per Abrahamsen 07:41, 1 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Danes

Hi Per. You seem to be unhappy with the reference to foreigners describing Danes as a tribe. One of the first persons to use the phrase was the (former) British ambassador to Denmark, Sir James Mellon who described similarities between Danes and a tribe he had encountered in Ghana. See e.g. the description in - Knud V. Jespersen: A History of Denmark, p. 5-7: "Sir James Mellon and the Danish Tribe" (quoting from Sir James Mellon's book "About old Denmark. A Description of Denmark in the Year of our Lord 1992". The Danish title is "Og Gamle Danmark".) I believe that E. Prakash Reddy ("Danes are like that") drew a similar conclusion.

I've personally heard several of my foreign professors describe Denmark in similar terms. An example of a Danish article with the same perspective is found in "HK's magasin Delta", no. 3, 2002): [1].) Regarding the issue about "New-Danes", well, a similar reference is made in the article about Swedes and I believe that it is relevant at least to note that Denmark is composed of several ethnic groups - if for no other reason that to avoid people constantly changeing the number of Danes in the table from 5.0 mill. to 5.4 mill. or whatever. In my mind, the table should only include ethnic Danes, i.e. closer to the 5.0 mill. mark than the 5.4 mill mark. It might even be relevant to make a note that the Danish term "etniske danskere" can mean the exacly opposite of "ethnic Danes".

On a completely different note; I don't like the portrait of Hans Christian Andersen. It should be changed to a gallery of important Danes, but it looks like you're already working on that. Regards. --Valentinian 00:44, 1 December 2005 (UTC)

What I objected to was the claim that is was describes as common among foreigners, despite never hearing the claim from a foreigner (and having lived abroad for some years). I have heard it from Danes though. You are welcome to put the "Danes as a tribe" with proper reference. Except there should also be an explicit point of putting that factoid in. What is the difference between a "nation" as the text use the word, and a "tribe"? The Danish word "folk" (literally "people") was translated to "nation" (which can be defended in the context), and then used as proff we are a "tribe". It is very confusing what that text was trying to accomplish.
The "new Danes" text was in a political section, but did not contain any explicit information about the political context of the term. It contained some questionable claims and terms that are often used in a political context, but that is worse than useless in that context, hence the removal.
Information about the demographics of Denmark belong to a demographic section, not a political section, and should be explicit, not allured to through linguistic changes.
User:Poulsen is working on the picture.--Per Abrahamsen 07:41, 1 December 2005 (UTC)

Ja, det er noget værre noget! Tør da slette ikke spørge ham om hvor han har det Blixen billede han har sat ind i Danish people fra. Poulsen 18:28, 5 December 2005 (UTC)

Problemet med det billede er at det er på grænsen til at gælde som et "kunstværk" i copyrightlovens forstand. Hvis bare det havde været et "almindeligt" portræt fra 30'erne, så var copyrighten udløbet forlængst (50 år fra publikationsdatoen; copyrightloven af 2003, §70,2). Hvis det er et kunstværk, så gælder 70 år fra kunstnerens død, og hvis han var en ung mand dengang så kan han stadig sidde på et plejehjem i dag. Jeg undersøgte loven fordi jeg stod og skulle bruge nogle billeder af Chr. X, så den skulle være god nok. --Valentinian 10:58, 6 December 2005 (UTC)
Dansk eller amerikansk lov?--Per Abrahamsen 11:13, 6 December 2005 (UTC)
Dansk lov. Den konsoliderede copyrightlov af 2003. §70,2 [2] Men jeg er tror ikke at man overhovedet kan håndhæve en copyright i USA, hvis den er udløbet i Danmark. Jura er i sagens natur langhåret, men jeg ser sagen som følger. På den ene side; Det er PD i Danmark, hvilket klart er det vigtigste marked for danske billeder, men dansk lov kan ikke gælde uden for DKs grænser, hvorfor DK ikke engang kan understrege at PD'en gælder globalt. På den anden side: jo, amerikansk lov siger noget andet, I) men det virker lidt søgt at håndhæve noget i fx USA eller Chile som oprindelseslandet ikke anser for at være et problem længere, II) Jeg kan desuden ikke se, hvordan dansk politi overhovedet lovligt kan medvirke i en sådan sag, for materialet er lovligt i DK og det er ikke omfattet af nogen af særlovgivningerne. Dvs. en sådan sag skal efterforskes af amerikanske myndigheder i DK (hvor de ikke har jurisdiktion) uden hjælp fra DK myndigheder. Den tror jeg simpelthen ikke på i praksis.
Jeg har været dybt forvirret på dette område; indrømmet. Men så vidt jeg overhovedet kan se er Wikipedias politik at det er den nationale lovgivning der er det afgørende. Fx anser Commons polske billeder før 1990'erne som Public Domain fordi polsk lov anser dem som sådan. Det samme med sovjetiske og (så vidt jeg husker) argentinske billeder. Omvendt afviste Commons et billede af glaspyramiden på Louvre fordi fransk lov giver copyright på billeder af monumenter til arkitekten, men accepterede et tilsvarende billede af et tysk bygningsværk, fordi det er PD efter tysk lov. Det er - såvidt jeg kan se - det som bjerget er nået frem til p.t. Efter den devise har jeg selv tilladt mig at uploade et par historiske billeder af Kong Christian og et af Odinstårnets ruiner (sidstnævnte er i alle tilfælde "fair use", for der findes vist kun det samme billede). --Valentinian 11:39, 6 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Free Software Celebrities according to Google

Hej Per!

I found your "Hall of Fame" quite amusing :)

Currently I only get:

Results 1 - 10 of about 13,400 for "Jens M Andreasen". (0.13 seconds)

Does that mean you could put me on the list of people "who did not make it?"

Please? :))) MX44 15:37, 11 March 2006 (UTC)

Du kommer med i mæste update.--Per Abrahamsen 06:57, 12 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Team CSC

Hello, It appears that you blanked a large section of this article, but I think maybe you only meant to remove a smaller portion of it. Can you please check your edit and make any neccessary adjustments? Thanks. --Brian G 14:19, 2 July 2006 (UTC)

Oops, yes. Fixed, I hope.--Per Abrahamsen 14:41, 2 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] References

Fair point, I'll put them back. kju 11:56, 30 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Jersey Progress Table

Cheers for the heads up, I've reverted back to the version before my edit. --Aioth 09:27, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Guild Wars

Maybe I worded it wrong. However, the fact remains that one of the features of Guild Wars is that each party gets its own PvE world to play in; Yahoo's review is misleading, stating that only being able to meet players in town is a negative aspect. If, for example, I am looking for a game to play, and I read the article page for Nightfall. Upon reading that I can't meet players outside of town, I may decide not to get the game, when it is in fact a feature.

Maybe what I tried to point out could be reworded better? --HayashiKun 23:49, 1 January 2007 (UTC)

In many other games, perhaps whether it is or isn't a feature would be subjective. However, it is stated on their own website that this is, in fact, a feature of the game, one aspect that they are trying to market and sell the game with. They are, in fact, marketing that because one can't meet other players outside of town, things such as kill-stealing and spawn-camping are non-existant. This is a feature for Guild Wars. Yahoo didn't seem to grasp that concept, and so made the comment that the system was "rudimentary" when it was in fact meant to be that way. Do you see what I'm saying? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by HayashiKun (talkcontribs) 05:49, 25 January 2007 (UTC).

[edit] Muhammad Ali

Thank you! Let's hope this gets resolved soon, because the pinwheel is getting old. Seicer (talk) (contribs) 22:28, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

Thanks also from me, for your additional illumination as to why inclusion of that particular text works against various policies. Stevie is the man! TalkWork 22:40, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Mountain Biking on Mount Tamalpais

Hello, An article that I created as a part of Wikiproject Cycling called Mountain Biking on Mount Tamalpais and linked to the Mount Tamalpais article, has been listed for deletion. If you are interested in the deletion discussion, please participate by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mountain Biking on Mount Tamalpais. Thank you, Bob in Las Vegas -  uriel8  (talk) 09:41, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Regarding the guild wars template

Sorry to step on your toes here, but there is strong opposition to including the newly announced guild wars games to this template, as you can see in the talk page. I myself am neutral on the issue, but Barek (talk · contribs) and A Man In Black (talk · contribs) have reverted these additions out multiple times. I think it is better to leave the template in its least controversial form until the dispute is settled. Kaustuv Chaudhuri 13:27, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Peter, son of Abraham

Can I just say that it's really awesome to see the most recent edit to Pete Abrams was done by someone named Per Abrahamsen? ;) --Iustinus 23:25, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Aktuel begivenhed

Hejsa, hvorfor har du sat Levi Leipheimer op som en aktuel sportsbegivenhed ?

Fordi sidste sætning i artiklen beskrev hans aktuelle placering i TdF.--Per Abrahamsen 19:59, 26 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Sources

Have some sources:

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As far as I know, 'The author believes he has sold x million copies as of 200X' is a legitimate statement. WLU 11:44, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] UCI Protour teams template

Hey Per,

I've started on a 2008 UCI ProTour teams template on my sandbox. Add in anything that you know of already. I'm making the name changes, but I've got to do the Europe Tour, America, Oceania etc tags too, so if you see them floating around can you add them in? Thanks. kju (talk) 14:20, 6 December 2007 (UTC)