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[edit] Table
I have inserted a table that WikiProject Airports are trying to make standard, and that I am adding to all Australian airport articles. I have completed the table but for an appropriate image. There was none of the airport in the article for me to use, so I've placed a temporary picture of Perth (from that article). Perhaps somebody could source and upload an appropriate image for use.--Cyberjunkie 09:51, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
- don't they have a proper parameterized template yet? it would really help keep them in sync and keep all the wikitable syntax out of the article itself. if not, it should be created at template:Infobox Airport (i think they had a test version at template:Tmp which could be moved there). clarkk 10:32, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
I'm not participating in WikiProject Airports. I just stumbled across it and figured the table would be a worthwhile addition to the major Australian airports. As far as I'm aware, they are only in 'testing stage' (note the notice at end of table). There are at least three different tables being trialed. I took the one the Canadian and UK Wikipedians are using, and customised it for Australian airports, incorporating some aspects of the US table. Maybe I should just create a template for the Australian airports, and let WikiProject Airports do as they wish.--Cyberjunkie 10:49, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
- i would start an australian one (keep it consistent with the other one as much as possible), and ultimately they may choose to adopt the australian one as the standard (or base the standard on it). either way it would be good to have a standard one at least for the oz airports (like i did with template:Infobox Australian University. clarkk 11:42, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
I've created a template under Template:Infobox Australian Airport. It being the first large template I've ever attempted, it needs a bit of a fix-up. Would you be able to check the syntax? I'm having a hard time with coordinates in particular. And I've just realised that not all airports have two runways - Sydney has three. Does this mean all templates must have space for three runways, even if they only have two?--Cyberjunkie 14:16, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
I added two sentences to the end of "Introduction of A380." I think people will find it interesting. -Amit, 07/04/05
Serious doubts about becoming Perth International Airport in 1952 - need proof! Sure it was Guildford Aerodrome then!SatuSuro 13:03, 18 May 2006 (UTC) oops but ok - maybe it was 'official' then! SatuSuro
[edit] Direct Perth/London link
I might be wrong here, but there is a comment in here about the A340-500 being able to do Perth-London direct, which is true for sure, but shouldn't it be amended to say that "it is currently considered uneconomical", otherwise it would've happend by now?qwertytam 05:28, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Fog
I have removed a section on fog, which claimed, without sources, that the nearest alternate airport for a heavy jet would be RAAF Learmonth. This seems incorrect, as RAAF Pearce's runway is sometimes used by USAF C-5 Galaxies. Also see ERSA entries for the airports: http://www.airservices.gov.au/publications/current/ersa/FAC_YPEA_15-Mar-2007.pdf; http://www.airservices.gov.au/publications/current/ersa/FAC_YPPH_15-Mar-2007.pdf. --Chewy m 15:04, 27 May 2007 (UTC)
From my understanding Learmonth is the nearest alternate for a certain class of heavies. This article on Kalgoorlie is the only source I could find from a quick search - http://www.abc.net.au/northwestwa/news/200312/s1015791.htm
I couldn't open your links. RAAF Pearce by my understanding is too short for many jets and being relatively close to Perth may be under the same restricting conditions that YPPH may be experiencing (low cloud/ fog etc), making it a poor location as an alternate.
The C-5 as you noted is able to participate at Pearce due to its amazing ability to takeoff and land on very short runways - even when fully loaded. I will reinstate the section on fog with a few edits (any suggestions appreciated) and find a better source in the next week or two :) Hoxygt 02:04, 24 June 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Virgin Atlantic
Ok, this is the third time I have had to revert information relating to them on this article so it's now time to include it on the talk page. For those of you wanting to add information regarding a planned route from London to Perth using the 787 Dreamliners purchased by the company in April - listen up! The airline never made any such commitment to fly the PER-LHR route non-stop. The announcement only indicated that the aircraft in question enabled them to fly such routes including Hawaii to London non-stop. Let me repeat, no firm commitment or suggestion was made they were going to or had plans to fly the route. Thank you Thewinchester (talk) 10:22, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
- If you're concerned the airline has not announced anything concrete yet, you could edit the offending text to clarify rather than reverting. This would not be out of place in this article - the section on the A380 is also speculative. Although the Virgin Atlantic press release did not say anything specific, both The Times (David Robertson, "Virgin orders Dreamliners for non-stop flight to Perth", 25 April 2007) and The Sunday Mirror ("Trade Update" - 29 April 2007) indicated immediate plans for flights to Perth. Cheers. --Chewy m 04:10, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
- Due respect, but the articles didn't indicate anything like that. From all the trade and other press reports I was able to read regarding this (and there was quite a few), the consensus was that airline made no commitment or demonstration of intent whatsoever to fly the route, either direct or implied. The key here is that they said they only had the capability to fly the routes in question upon receipt of the ordered aircraft, nothing more, nothing less. To include as you suggest the information in any form would be inappropriate, as it's purely speculative, the authors have quoted the statements made by Branson clearly out of context, thus leaving no reliable sources that can be used to substantiate the claims. Oh, and to put this to bed once and for all - Virgin Atlantic could not fly these aircraft to Australia even if they wanted to at this point in time, simply because of their marketing and licensing agreement with SIA, who has sole right to use the Virgin Atlantic name within the Asia-Pacific region (which is why Virgin Blue is named as it it). SIA would have to purchase these jets, and they would be flown under their existing code share arrangement with VA, under the SIA banner, unless in some planet aligning moment of common sense VA changed it's conditions of contract allowing them to fly their planes in VA livery. Thewinchester (talk) 04:23, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
- Not suggesting what you're saying is incorrect, but could you cite these these trade/press reports? Just seems that if The Times is going to be excluded for being an unreliable source, that unreliability should be verifiable. Given that it the Dreamliner section is speculative, do you agree that the "Introduction of the A380" section should also be removed? Thanks --Chewy m 05:46, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
- Now that you mention it, yes - it should be deleted. Would you like the honours, or shall I? Thewinchester (talk) 06:22, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
- Not suggesting what you're saying is incorrect, but could you cite these these trade/press reports? Just seems that if The Times is going to be excluded for being an unreliable source, that unreliability should be verifiable. Given that it the Dreamliner section is speculative, do you agree that the "Introduction of the A380" section should also be removed? Thanks --Chewy m 05:46, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
- Due respect, but the articles didn't indicate anything like that. From all the trade and other press reports I was able to read regarding this (and there was quite a few), the consensus was that airline made no commitment or demonstration of intent whatsoever to fly the route, either direct or implied. The key here is that they said they only had the capability to fly the routes in question upon receipt of the ordered aircraft, nothing more, nothing less. To include as you suggest the information in any form would be inappropriate, as it's purely speculative, the authors have quoted the statements made by Branson clearly out of context, thus leaving no reliable sources that can be used to substantiate the claims. Oh, and to put this to bed once and for all - Virgin Atlantic could not fly these aircraft to Australia even if they wanted to at this point in time, simply because of their marketing and licensing agreement with SIA, who has sole right to use the Virgin Atlantic name within the Asia-Pacific region (which is why Virgin Blue is named as it it). SIA would have to purchase these jets, and they would be flown under their existing code share arrangement with VA, under the SIA banner, unless in some planet aligning moment of common sense VA changed it's conditions of contract allowing them to fly their planes in VA livery. Thewinchester (talk) 04:23, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Perth International Airport
Does: Perth Airport Flying international flights? How much foreign destination to arrive nonstop? Which above? If yes, why that not Perth International Airport. just airport if no longer offer international flights like Shanghai Hongqiao Airport. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Roded86400 (talk • contribs) 17:59, June 27, 2007 (UTCUTC+8)
- Yes, international flights both depart and arrive at the airfield. However, the airport is officially known as Perth Airport since 2002 when the operating company officially decided to name it so. I would suggest reading up on the naming conventions of articles within WP:AVIATION. Thewinchester (talk) 11:41, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Air Traffic Control Feed
You can listen to the Perth Air Traffic Control Feed Here —Preceding unsigned comment added by Scoreed (talk • contribs) 02:39, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
