Talk:Pershing Rifles

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This article needs to be cleaned up. In 1891, ROTC, as such, did not exist. ROTC was formed in 1916 as part of the National Defense Act of 1916 [1]. There WAS military training offered in land grant colleges but it was NOT the Reserve Officer Training Corps. This page needs citations all over the place.--Vidkun 22:15, 8 February 2006 (UTC)

I'm confused as to where exactly in the article it says ROTC existed in 1891. It states that it exists now, which it does, but I don't see where it says it existed 100+ years ago. Also, I think you'll find that other than the sections I wrote, the entire article is a cut-and-paste job from the Pershing Rifles website. So yes, it needs a lot of cleaning up/rewriting, which has been on my to-do list for a while (but obviously not at the top or it would have been done by now). Feel free to help out if you're so inclined.--ScreaminEagle 01:20, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Pershing_Rifles&diff=41470093&oldid=41345426 --Vidkun 14:19, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

Pershing Rifles Tactical Regiments: The 12th Brigade Pershing Rifles is the only tactical regiment. The 12th Brigade consists of

Company B-12 Boston University

Company C-12 Massachusetts Institute of Technology

Company D-12 Massachusetts Maritime Academy

Company E-12 Worcester Polytechnic Institute

Company F-12 Stonehill College

Members of B-12 pride themselves on military proficiency, tactical excellence, professionalism, and a demanding candidate program known as P/R Pledge Term. A 6-9 week course in all manner of military skills, pledge term not only helps prepare ROTC cadets for success later in ROTC, but also gives them leadership tools that they will eventually need as junior officers.

Making the choice to become a Pershing Rifleman is not always easy, but the potential rewards are great. Extra training is only the beginning; the bonds formed with fellow members will last a lifetime. Retired members have returned from combat deployments telling of how lessons from P/Rs have helped them lead their troops successfully, when it really matters.

P/Rs lead the way!

The preceding information is an advertisement, has nothing to do with the subject of the main article page, and lists no reliable sources for the claim. I have recently heard a number of reports about P/R being tactical in Massachusetts, but I see nothing on the PR webpage authorizing this.--Vidkun 14:20, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] (Non) Notable Alumni

At least half of the "Notable Alumni" section are non-notable in so far as they have no wikipedia article of their own. Some of them with links look to me to be also incorrect or linking to the wrong people. I don't know (or care) about the Pershing Rifles enough to edit/correct, but someone who does should. CAVincent (talk) 02:28, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

If I recall, most of those names had been added directly from the PR homepage's list of notable PRs. As you noted, their definition of notable obviously differs from Wikipedia's definition. --ScreaminEagle (talk) 23:24, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Downgrade

I'm downgrading this article to a Start class, a lot more referencing is needed for B-class. _{WEBURIEDOURSECRETSINTHEGARDEN}^{we need to talk.}• 15:27, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

It is worth noting that as a university honor society, editors will not be able to find many formally published works on the subject of the Pershing Rifles. What is known about the society is typically learned as a pledge and passed down by unit tradition along with a few standard documents distributed by the national headquarters. I know something of the P/R's and find the information in this article to be substantially correct. More referencing may well be an admirable goal for B-Class articles, but this is a case in which it may be an impossible goal for editors of the article to achieve. Cheers, W. B. Wilson (talk) 18:49, 28 December 2007 (UTC)