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Is a periphery the same as a province or nomos? -- Oliver P. 23:16, 22 Aug 2003 (UTC)

According to Greece#Peripheries, nomoi are subdivisions of peripheries. I've seen "province" as translation of both nomos and perphery on WP. I just googled now, and saw that Greek eparchies are translated as "province" as well. --Menchi 18:49, 17 Oct 2003 (UTC)

Very odd - I thought "periphery" meant "around the edge" but it does seem to be used for the 13 parts of Greece. Even odder, Eurostat seems to use it for "region" in a general sense: compare [1] with [2] and you get κανονιστικές περιφέρειες for normative regions (I would say "administrative regions" while the Greek suggests "canonical regions") and αναλυτικές περιφέρειες for analytical regions. --Henrygb 20:38, 13 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Where does Eurostat use 'periphery' to mean 'region'? The search "site:eurostat.ec.europa.eu periphery greece" finds nothing, though 'regions' does. In fact, Eurostat seems to use 'region' consistently for the periferies of Greece. I am even more convinced that the name of this article needs to be changed. --Macrakis 19:12, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)

I do not think "periphery" is a correct translation of periferia in this case, though of course they go back to the same root. The National Statistical Service of Greece seems to use the word "region", which makes much more sense. As for 'kanonistikes' vs. 'analitikes' -- I haven't looked at the Eurostat source document, but my guess is that these mean exactly what you expect: 'kanonistikes' would mean 'as defined by regulations' i.e. administrative regions; 'analitikes' is 'as used for analysis/statistics'. (cf. the US Standard Metropolitan Statistical Areas (SMSAs) which do not correspond to administrative/legal areas. I suggest that this article be renamed as Administrative Regions of Greece. --Macrakis 06:25, 28 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Where do you see the translation at the Statistical Service page? "It's all Greek to me" (like you haven't heard that about a jillion times :-) ). "Administrative region" is kind of a mouthful - "region" alone would be OK if one could establish sufficient precedent. " Category:Subnational entities includes a variety of examples; in some cases you can see people using untranslated terms when there is not an agreed-upon translation into English. Stan 14:22, 9 Apr 2005 (UTC)

If you search "site:www.statistics.gr periphery" or "peripheries", you will find 11 results, but 0 for periphery or peripheries. If you look at some of these documents, you'll see that they use "region" to mean precisely a "periphery"; they also use "geographical region" which merges some of the peripheries, e.g. Central and West Macedonia into Macedonia, North and South Aegean into Aegean. In fact, if you look at Greek sites in general (site:gr peripheries vs. regions), you'll find that 'peripheries' is not very common, and is mostly used with the English sense. By the way, if you want the Statistical Services site in English, click on the word 'English' in the upper right hand corner of their home page. --Macrakis 19:07, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)

My Greek is non-existent. My English is rather better. I cannot believe that "periphery" is the correct translation of periferia. The purpose of translation must be to convey meaning. Surely the meaning of periferia is something like "region", "district", "province" &c.? The peripheries are on the edge and every area of Greece cannot be "on the edge", surely? Avalon 12:57, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Lists

There should be more on the role that these units actually play in Greek government, and proportionately less space for trivia lists... AnonMoos 15:15, 5 August 2006 (UTC)

Agreed. I'm wacking the pure-trivia lists. The Monster 16:11, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

Of course, at least in this article there should be more on the role that the peripheries play in Greek government but on the other hand e.g. the lists in the set of articles about prefectures are an excellent resource to access information about all municipalities, communities and settlements in Greece, I really wouldn't like to lose it!

Sivullinen (talk) 16:40, 23 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Administration of the 'Peripheries of Greece'

Considering the statement "After the legislative reform of 1994 most of the administrative duties of the prefectures were transferred to the peripheries" in the article about prefectures, it's surpising how little (in fact, nothing at the moment!) this article tells about administration of the peripheries!

Sivullinen (talk) 14:11, 23 November 2007 (UTC)