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There seems to be some argument over the amounts for each type of plane that are currently in service. Could people please post their references either here or add links in the article to state where they got their information? --210.211.83.227 01:25, 19 November 2005 (UTC)

Contents 1 Xian H-8? Stealth Bomber? 2 Apology 3 J-4 4 J-10 deployed? 5 J-9 5.1 Cancelled / Abandoned Aircraft 6 Army Aviation 7 Biggest airforce in Asia? 8 Too technical 9 Reversion

[edit] Xian H-8? Stealth Bomber?

I would question the validity of that. The existence of the supposed Chinese stealth bomber is just yet another rumor. I don't think It belongs on this page quite yet. Show me something valid and I'll put it back in. Until then... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.60.202.221 (talk) 04:50, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Apology

Sorry, made a huge mistake.... No excuse. Will quit wiki as form of my apology Ch2000 05:57, 6 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] J-4

• J-4 - (disputed) version of the MiG-15bis [1], MiG-17A [2], or MiG-17F [3] (retired)

-- June 23, 2006

[edit] J-10 deployed?

Can anyone confirm that J-10 is deployed? I recall reading that somewhere.

answer" yes according to Kanwa Defence Review

[edit] J-9

shouldn't the J-9 be removed from the list since it is not in service and was cancelled?

J-9, J-10, and J-12 cancelled projects placed in Cancelled Aircraft section. Although they never entered service, I put them there for the curious. -- Adeptitus 17:32, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Cancelled / Abandoned Aircraft

• East Wind 104 - Shenyang Aircraft Factory's design (with Soviet assistance) for Mach 1.4 light fighter (Abandoned) - [4]
• East Wind 107 - Mach 1.8 fighter with design similiar to F-8U Crusader, abandoned in 1959 in favor of East Wind 113 (Abandoned) - [5]
• East Wind 113 - Proposed Mach 2.5 fighter similiar to F-104 by Harbin Military Engineering Institute, abandoned in favor of MiG-21 (Abandoned) - [6]
• JJ-1 (FT-1) - The Shenyang JJ-1 was the first Chinese-designed jet trainer, only 1 prototype made in 1958 (Cancelled) - [7]
• J-9 - Competing design to the J-8 to produce a Mach 2.4 interceptor, cancelled in 1980 (Cancelled) - [8]
• J-11 (old) - Fighter jet with British Spey 512 engine, project abandoned in 1980s (Abandoned) - [9]
• J-12 - Light fighter developed in 1960s-1970s, only 6 prototypes made. Cancelled in 1978 (Cancelled) - [10] [11] [12]
• J-13 - Light fighter developed in 1971 as J-6 replacement, cancelled. (Cancelled) - [13]
• KJ-1 - PRC's first attempt at building an AWACS aircraft in 1970s, based on Soviet copies of the B-29 aircraft. [14]

[edit] Army Aviation

I suspect that the WZ-9s and a large fraction of the Mil Mi-17 transports belong to PLA Army Aviation units rather than the PLAAF proper, is their a ref that all the Mils are PLAAF, as I have a printed source that claims that PLA Army Aviation consists of some 300 helicopters comprised of Z-9 attack helicopters and 74 Mil Mi-17s. KTo288 23:29, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Biggest airforce in Asia?

If the PLAAF is the 3rd largest air-force in the world, behind Russia and the USA, wouldn't it be the 2nd largest in Asia (behind Russia)? Shadoom (talk) 04:51, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

No.Russia is not an Asian Country. It is an European country. I learned this in middle school.lol

Actually, russia is in both europe and asia. Technically, it should be changed to biggest airforce in southeast asia. I will change it now. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Vlad Dracula (talk • contribs) 12:16, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Too technical

Not a single name. Who was the founder, the lead strategist? DOR (HK) (talk) 09:15, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

Air Force Commander Liu Yalou (1949-65), Political Commissar Wu Faxian (1949-65)

Air Force Commander Wu Faxian (1965-71), Political Commissar Xiao Hua (1949-65)

Air Force Commander Ma Ning (1973-77)

Air Force Commander Zhang Tingfa (1977-85)

Air Force Commander Wang Hai (1985-92), the first pilot in this position.

< ref > Allen, Kenneth, et al, China's Air Force Enters the 21st Century, Rand (Santa Monica: 1995)< /ref > DOR (HK) (talk) 14:26, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

Problem solved. DOR (HK) (talk) 10:01, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Reversion

Is there some reason why Arienh4 reverted my inclusion of a table of the commanders and political commissars since 1949? The action seems not in keeping with the "assume goodwill" character of Wikipedia. I will restore it. DOR (HK) (talk) 02:17, 12 June 2008 (UTC)