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From what I hear, in the Big 10, only Ohio State views Penn State as a serious rival. While it's true that Michigan State and Penn State play for a trophy, fans of both schools do not really see this as a true rivalry. Meanwhile Syracuse, Pittsburgh and West Virginia all view Penn State as a serious rival. Whoever said that many fans of both the Big 10 and Northeast football was not pleased with PSU joining the Big 10 was 100% correct. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 170.3.8.253 (talk) 18:42, 17 April 2008 (UTC)
- I agree that MSU is not really any rivalry to speak of. I do not agree that Syracuse and PSU are rivals however. I will fix some stuff, but some of it needs a citation so I can't put it in.
Superbowlbound (talk) 20:32, 17 April 2008 (UTC)
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- You must be a little younger than me. When Penn State used to regularly play Syracuse, SU students would sometimes come down to State College and paint the Nittany Lion statue orange. The games were also intense though I believe PSU generally got the better of SU.
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- Maybe, but I did know that. 'Cuse isn't any good anymore and I don't think they play each other too much either. It is kind of a dead rivalry, not in the same way as this one though. Superbowlbound (talk) 19:30, 18 April 2008 (UTC)
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- I would say they don't really have any rival in the true sense of the word, which would be a reciprocated rival, like a Auburn-Alabama, Texas-Texas A&M, Florida-FSU. Certainly they have no true rival in a historical sense. The PSU wikipedia community lists their rivals in this order: Michigan Wolverines, Ohio State Buckeyes, Michigan State Spartans, Minnesota Golden Gophers. Judging only by the Ohio State wikipedia community, they have their rivalries listed on their football page this way: Michigan Wolverines, Illinois Fighting Illini (traditional), Penn State Nittany Lions (designated by Big Ten). Michigan's wikipedia football page lists them in this order: Ohio State Buckeyes, Notre Dame Fighting Irish, Michigan State Spartans, Minnesota Golden Gophers, Penn State Nittany Lions. Michigan State lists them this way: Michigan Wolverines, Notre Dame Fighting Irish, Penn State Nittany Lions. No other schools list them as a rival. No school lists them as more than their 3rd biggest rival, so these obviously aren't reciprocated to the same degree as what one thinks of traditionally as rivalries. However, at least OSU and MSU are the rivals designated to them by the Big 10, so if they want to list them as rivals, I guess that's up to them, but they do not have any rivalry like the Pitt vs WVU rivalry in the Big Ten. CrazyPaco (talk) 23:47, 17 April 2008 (UTC)
- Interesting. It's a shame PSU did not join the Big East (in my opinion), because Pittsburgh, West Virginia and Syracuse all had some very heated rivalries with Penn State when they used to play regularly. Syracuse viewed Penn State as its biggest rival while Penn State 2nd biggest rival was probably Syracuse (though some would say West Virginia).
- I would say they don't really have any rival in the true sense of the word, which would be a reciprocated rival, like a Auburn-Alabama, Texas-Texas A&M, Florida-FSU. Certainly they have no true rival in a historical sense. The PSU wikipedia community lists their rivals in this order: Michigan Wolverines, Ohio State Buckeyes, Michigan State Spartans, Minnesota Golden Gophers. Judging only by the Ohio State wikipedia community, they have their rivalries listed on their football page this way: Michigan Wolverines, Illinois Fighting Illini (traditional), Penn State Nittany Lions (designated by Big Ten). Michigan's wikipedia football page lists them in this order: Ohio State Buckeyes, Notre Dame Fighting Irish, Michigan State Spartans, Minnesota Golden Gophers, Penn State Nittany Lions. Michigan State lists them this way: Michigan Wolverines, Notre Dame Fighting Irish, Penn State Nittany Lions. No other schools list them as a rival. No school lists them as more than their 3rd biggest rival, so these obviously aren't reciprocated to the same degree as what one thinks of traditionally as rivalries. However, at least OSU and MSU are the rivals designated to them by the Big 10, so if they want to list them as rivals, I guess that's up to them, but they do not have any rivalry like the Pitt vs WVU rivalry in the Big Ten. CrazyPaco (talk) 23:47, 17 April 2008 (UTC)
