Talk:Penis game

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Penis game survived vfd. See: Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Penis game -- Wile E. Heresiarch 14:07, 20 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Articles for deletion This article was nominated for deletion on 26 February 2008. The result of the discussion was keep.

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[edit] Pun notice

Removed the following text from the article by Christofurio: "One seldom sees the stub notice in contexts where it serves as a naughty pun -- but this is one of those times." Funny, but not really appropriate for the article. - Plutor 11:20, 15 Jul 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Stub notice, bogies

I relinked bogies, some people will want to click that for sure; some might even expand the bogie article too. I readded the stub message because this is nowhere near a full article length yet. Maybe if it sits as a stub for several months it should go, but I'm sure there is encyclopedic information yet to be added. —siroχo 06:17, Jul 18, 2004 (UTC)

[edit] From the VfD

I have copied the following from the VfD, as I find it very interesting, and useful (especially the last comment, about the rules of in- and out-groups). I'd like to see it added to the article, though we need a real source first. —MikeX (talk) 05:47, Dec 23, 2004 (UTC)

      • This game is known in England. I have it on reliable evidence that British troops stationed in Germany play a variant in local drinking establishments, called 'Gestapo'. So if Penis had to go, aside from profanity shouting and vulgarity shouting games, we would also need an article for 'words of historical embarrassment shouting games'. Adhib 14:52, 17 Jul 2004 (UTC)
        • So, ah, how do the local burghers im die Bier-Hall respond? Shame over their Nazi past, or anger at being reminded by their liberators' Army? -- orthogonal 05:14, 18 Jul 2004 (UTC)
          • Naturally, the playing of the game results in tensions between players and other customers. I think this case is revealing in that it demonstrates that the 'offence word' serves mainly to test whether a player is more loyal to in-group or to out-group norms of behaviour. The winner is the one who is most 'in-group', obeying the rules of the game slavishly, and who is least sensitive to 'out-group' pressures. If played in an environment populated entirely by in-group members, the game is not fun, as it provides no such test.
            • I can attest that my brother played it in High School in Scotland. Alasdairking 9 Dec 2005.

[edit] Vagina game

I have never heard of a penis game before, but I know that some people (personally, I have known of Australian university students) to play a vagina game, which is the same thing, different word.--137.111.130.147 09:44, 7 September 2005 (UTC)

[edit] online?

How in the world would this be played online? Use a bigger and bigger font? Joyous | Talk 14:32, 31 December 2005 (UTC)

Yes. You'd think the original version would have been sophisticated enough for people. --BDD 04:50, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Australia

In Australia, I've only ever heard the 'penis!' version of the penis game... or 'cock' etc. Can any other Aussies back me up on this?

Probably not, given that there is a post above where someone with an Australian IP claims they know of Aussie uni students playing a vagina game... Nil Einne 17:07, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

NESPE

I can confirm that in at least one university a common back of the lecture theatre game is an adaptation of this, with 'boobs' and 'vagina' commonly substituted.


Edited to avoid offense, as the article had effectively insinuated that Australians are supposed to be more foul mouthed than anyone else. Of course, I'd be happy to change it back if someone could offer a citation for a study that proves me wrong. Otherwise it comes across as more of a racist generalization than a statement of fact. --203.217.29.190 10:20, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Where to go from here

Well, the article went and survived, and didn't even need the extensive, several-hours-in-the-writing rhetorical Alamo of mine that hadn't gotten past the planning stage. A good next step would be fixing and improving the article. I'm probably the wrong person to do so but will have to step in if nobody else does. Here are a few ideas, feel free to add more:

  • Integrate found sources. We have the academic paper, and I can defend the validity of using it here at some length but it will be a bit tricky, and the huge British children's show and all that's been said about that, plus some amount of an assortment.
    • Anyone from the United Kingdom and aware of any good press coverage? The show has been raising eyebrows.
  • Try to find verification on the things in the article that need it, or remove them.
  • Search for more data, especially with foreign language ones and variants. The "penis game" version suffers from what the folks over at the TV Tropes Wiki call "googleplexing"; disruption of search results by unrelated similar terms.
    • In particular, there's now the penis flashing game from Waiting...
  • If it becomes necessary, consider renaming to "vulgarity shouting game." At the moment, "penis game" seems like a fine general term and the most popular one, but that's only in English and this might be massively popular in Slovakia or something.

Hope that helps. Tirades about how articles about bizarre subjects are our most valuable content and how attempting to preserve our dignity/worth by destroying content is the best way to lose it are available on request. --Kizor 20:29, 2 March 2008 (UTC)