Talk:Penguin Cafe Orchestra
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[edit] Jeffes
Redirects to this article which means it is effectively a bio page as well - until someone separates it for any reason......SatuSuro 09:47, 5 February 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Label
E.G. was not a label endorsed by Brian Eno, he was merely signed by E.G. The way it is mentioned here reads as if it was his label. --stasis101 19:34, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
- Furthermore, as far as I know, the E.G. label did not exist at that time (1976). According to the E.G. Records article, it was a management company and not a label until several years after 1977 (I think that's what it means to say, but it's possible the meaning has been changed by edits). I believe it existed as a label name by 1978, but not much earlier. The King Crimson discography says their first album was released on E.G. Records in 1969, which I'm certain is wrong; it should say Island Records. —Preceding unsigned comment added by A Knight Who Says Ni (talk • contribs) 22:56, 1 May 2008
[edit] Telephone & Rubber Band
Although the pitches may correspond to touch tones 454544, if you listen to the original track it's clear to me that there is some overlap on the first four notes. This DTMF explanation seems at variance with the other explanation of overlapping tones. 195.153.160.240 (talk) 11:31, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
- OK, I just generated the 454544 DTMF tones on a sound editor (CoolEdit), and although the tune is roughly right, this is definitely not where the sound came from. Anyone who's heard standard old-style UK dial and engaged tones will recognise these instantly as those two tones, overlapped together as described later in the text. The fact that they're in synch is also understandable, as I believe that there's a master clock that coordinates such things.
- The DTMF stuff is just plain wrong, and should be taken out. I'm gonna come back and do it if no-one can suggest a reason for it to stay. --Cdavis999 (talk) 23:49, 2 May 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Telephone and Rubber band
I believe that the loop at the start isn't a DTMF dial sound. It's a mixture of an English Engaged Tone (heard at the time if you called a number that was busy although now replaced with a spoken voice loop) and a ringing tone as heard by the person dialing.
Jeffes heard the two together as a result of a fault on his phone line and found the interplay between the two sounds interesting.
Matt. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 132.185.144.124 (talk) 18:05, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
