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An entry from Pendennis Club appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know? column on 4 September 2006.

[edit] Club address controversy

I am a former Louisville resident. I remember hearing something 25 years ago or so that the club, which is located at 2nd & West Muhammed Ali Blvd, changed its address for a while to 2nd Street when Walnut Street was renamed Muhammed Ali Blvd. This, of course was when the club did not admit African-Americans. I see that they currently list their address as Muhammed Ali Blvd. Does anyone have any info on this? --rogerd 19:21, 24 September 2006 (UTC)

I didn't find anything about that when I was searching through the CJ database (back to 1999 or so) to write this article. Without a source, I don't really feel comfortable adding it to the article, and I have a bad feeling that to actually find a source, one would have to find the period newspaper articles (in other words, sift through a bunch of microfilm). So... I'm kind of stumped, sorry. If anyone has a source, this would seem like a meaningful thing to mention in the article. --W.marsh 19:44, 24 September 2006 (UTC)

No, of course not. I don't think my 25 year old memory is a reliable source. I was just hoping to stir someone else's memory or if someone had a good source of information. --rogerd 20:14, 24 September 2006 (UTC)

If this is true, I'll bet it was a protest against Muhammed Ali himself (rather than a racial thing). The "Louisville Syndicate", mostly prominent members of the Pendennis Club, were the ones who financed Ali's early training and boxing career and promoted Ali to the point where he could get a title fight, and then felt betrayed after he severed ties with them upon defeating Liston.--salvisa 16:49, 22 March 2008 (UTC)

I checked the CJ index which covers stories through 1976 and it didn't mention this. I did learn there was apparently going to be a block-sized development across the street called "Pendennis Plaza" in the early 1960s but it never happened. Unfortunately it seems like the street renaming occurred during the period between where the CJ microfilm index ends (1976) and electronic archives begin (1988). I did find this:

Two decades ago, after Ali had won the heavyweight championship an unprecedented third time and was possibly the most recognized man in the world, Louisville renamed a major downtown street Muhammad Ali Boulevard. Shortly thereafter the Pendennis Club, an all-white, all-male bastion of old-line money and influence that fronted on the newly renamed street, changed its address to an out-of-the-way side door on Second Street.

That's from the 11-27-1999 Philly Enquirer. The citation would be:

Cawthon, Raad. "LOUISVILLE, ALI SETTING THINGS RIGHT / THE BOXER'S BIRTHPLACE HOPES ITS BIG PLANS END HARD FEELINGS.", Philadelphia Inquirer, 11-27-1999, pp. A1.  --Rividian (talk) 15:23, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] DYK

What from this article made the DYK? I'd like to add it to the Louisville Portal.--Bedford 07:30, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

• That the Old-Fashioned was (probably) invented there. --W.marsh 13:32, 17 May 2007 (UTC)