Talk:Peace process in the Israeli-Palestinian conflict

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Split off peace process from main article, which basically just contained peace process and links. FT2 12:23, Nov 21, 2004 (UTC)


I rememeber reading once that Mauritania has diplomatic relations with Israel. Does anyone know if this is true?A2Kafir 22:26, 14 Dec 2004 (UTC)

I would like statements like the one below to be justified with examples, linking to another if required, otherwise the statement is baseless and biased.

The U.S. has veto power in the U.N. Security Council and is able to block resolutions it opposes, and it has frequently vetoed resolutions critical of Israel actions, while criticising other nations for similar actions.

--212.179.227.105 10:24, 28 July 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Humus sapiens

POV.

Why do you insist on putting Iran? why do not you put all the muslim world? Are the arabs one entity regarding this issue? Not all arabs fought Israel. If you insist on putting Iran than you have to show the US and Canada and Europe and Australia in Blue. The claimed Israeli territory is a lot larger then what is represented in the map. They even occupied more then their claimed size.

You can put a map showing what Israel has occupied of neighbouring territories and what conflicts started since its establishment. That will be more factual.

The map that Humus sapiens is rv to is simply propaganda used by israelis and zionists and is anti-arabs and Iran.

129.130.15.91 22:28, 15 December 2005 (UTC)

Iran belongs here because neither Hezbollah nor Mahmoud Ahmadinejad help peace process. Nobody says that all Arabs fought Israel: see Arab League and the Arab-Israeli conflict. As for your theory that "conflicts started since its (Israel's) establishment", see Riots in Palestine of 1920, Jaffa riots of 1921, Riots in Palestine of 1929, Great Arab Uprising of 1936-1939. ←Humus sapiens←ну? 22:46, 15 December 2005 (UTC)
Ahmadinejad is not an arab. That is why the map does not belong here. You can put it in israeli iraninan relations.

The map is absolute propaganda. Those countries do not represent an entity on this issue. Egypt and Jordan are signed to the treaty. This map is trying has many false claims as described above. It is simply propaganda. 129.130.15.91 23:33, 15 December 2005 (UTC)

This article is not only about today. How many wars Egypt and Jordan fought with Israel? You can have your opinion about Iran, but MA's and ayatollah's statements, Iranian involvement with Hizballah and Karine A fiasco evidence that you are wrong. ←Humus sapiens←ну? 23:43, 15 December 2005 (UTC)
With your reasoning you should absolutely include France and Britain as they also fought war alongside Israel against Egypt. Possibly you should also include the US when they helped israel with the biggest airlift of weapons in history in the october 1973 war. With all of this you still can not include countries like Sudan, Libya, Tunisia, Algeria, etc.. . Actually you can not include but Syria and Egypt. Furthermore in the case you include Egypt, the map also does not belong here because it is outdated. In conclusion the map is propaganda and distorts reality and should be here. You can keep it in your website. It is only your POV and zionsits-propagandists like you. 129.130.15.91 23:57, 15 December 2005 (UTC)
Reread the title of this article. Those wars didn't involve Palestinians and were irrelevant to the peace process. See WP:NPA. ←Humus sapiens←ну? 00:02, 16 December 2005 (UTC)

Why do not YOU read the title closely? Who is involved in those negotiations. You are pointless. You are only try to force you POV.129.130.15.91 00:06, 16 December 2005 (UTC)

The peace process is much more that negotiations. This is your 2nd warning to stop personal attacks. ←Humus sapiens←ну? 00:12, 16 December 2005 (UTC)

Surely the peace process is far more than negotiations. Since this is abut israeli-palestinians you can not just puzlle the reader with a distorted view of the countries that are involved. I think the best picture is to show the UN partitions of the land of Palestine into two states or the current occupied territories by Israel including the palestinian territories. I donot mean to attack you. But your insistence on the map with all the reasons I provided just aggrevate the situation. I did not get the first warning. where did you mention it? 129.130.15.91 00:42, 16 December 2005 (UTC)

Everyone is expected to abide by WP:NPA and other WP:RULES. It is funny that you mention "the UN partitions of the land of Palestine" because the next day after the British Mandate expired, the armies of Jordan, Egypt, Syria, Lebanon and Iraq (see the map - that is why it is relevant) invaded its territory. ←Humus sapiens←ну? 02:10, 16 December 2005 (UTC)

I believe I am abiding by the rules. I am not saying you are bad or anything of that sort. As to propagnada it can be positive or negative. As to zionism some people are proud of being a part of it. I do not see the breach. when I say POV it means POV. When I say pointless I mean there is no point. I do not see how you are getting offended. Going back to the main points here, along the same lines of your reasoning, I can argue about including Britain and France and even the US. Just try to stick to the title. It is only about israeli and palestinians. Unless you think that the palestinian came from all over. In that case although the case would be baseless, you would have to include the soviet union, europe, ethiopia, in addition to what you have and more since this is where the israelis came from. 129.130.15.91 02:33, 16 December 2005 (UTC)