User talk:Pbrandon

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Hello Pbrandon! Welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. If you decide that you need help, check out Getting Help below, ask me on my talk page, or place {{helpme}} on your talk page and someone will show up shortly to answer your questions. Please remember to sign your name on talk pages by clicking or using four tildes (~~~~); this will automatically produce your name and the date. Finally, please do your best to always fill in the edit summary field. Below are some useful links to facilitate your involvement. Happy Editing! Cheers, :) Dlohcierekim 21:52, 25 October 2006 (UTC) Getting Started Wikipedia Tutorial • The five pillars of Wikipedia How to: edit a page • upload an image Getting Help Frequently Asked Questions Where to ask questions or make comments Request administrator attention Policies and Guidelines Neutral point of view • Reliable sources Verifiability • Citing sources • No original research What Wikipedia is not • Biographies of living persons Manual of Style • Three-revert rule • Sock puppetry Copyrights • Fair use • Image use policy External links • Spam • Vandalism Deletion policy • Conflict of interest • Notability The Community Build consensus • Resolving disputes Assume good faith • Civility • Etiquette No personal attacks • No legal threats Community Portal • Village pump Signpost • IRC channels • Mailing lists Things to do Be bold in editing • Help develop an article Pages needing attention • Peer review Join a WikiProject • Translating articles Cleaning up: General • Spam • Vandalism Miscellaneous Useful templates • Categories • Stubs User pages • Talk pages Tools • User scripts

[edit] VH1's 40 Greatest Metal Songs speedy delete

Hi, this is empty, and will probably be deleted. Please recreate the article when you have content for it. Cheers, :) Dlohcierekim 21:55, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Speedy Deletion frustration

Hi Pbrandon, thanks for your note. I agree, it's frustrating to work on an article and see it deleted. The first article I created was speedily deleted as "empty". That's why I try to notify the article's creator when I tag it for speedy deletion. I guess the best way to avoid speedy deletion would be to read the criteria atWP:CSD.

I don't recall reading the other article you mention. That looks like a band's name, but you wrote it is a web site. Anyway, there are notability and verifability requirements for Wikipedia articles. It may be the subject was too "insignificant" to for an article. For goodness sake, don't use a word like that in the article!

The best way to avoid a speedy is to state in the first sentence something about the subject that meets notability. I searched google for Metal Sludge and got about 115 unique hits on a variety of subjects. So I would doubt the subject is notable.

I searched for Metal Sludge and found the page was protected against re-creation-- an interesting development. There is a comment that it is a "not notable band." My suggestion to avoid this would be to google search a subject from the contemporary pop culture. If it has more than 10,000 UNIQUE google hits, I would feel safe creating the article. I say unique, because some hits are duplicates. I keep going through the hits till I get to the last one on Google. That's the number of UNIQUE hits, all others are duplicates.

WP:BAND has a long list of requiremnts too long to paste here. I check ALLMUSIC to see what the band has done to meet notability.

To avoid having pages deleted before you start, work on them on a user sub-page like this-- User:Pbrandon/test. Just click on the red link. Put "test in the edit summary. Then, when you have the thing ready, copy and paste it into the new article.

Hope this helps, don't give up. Cheers, :) Dlohcierekim 14:08, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

• Absolutely correct. Nothing personal, either. The title was a previously failed "articles for deletion" nominee and the total content you added was: An 1980s hairband tribute website. MetalSludge.com seems dedicated to all things hard rock, as if it were still say, 1987. This makes it a speedy for lack of content/context. Dlohcierekim had an excellent suggestion regarding the creation of a test page. If you can establish this site's notability, please feel free to do so. With three billion websites on the internet, Wikipedia has to be pretty selective. Thanks for understanding and please don't let this discourage you from contributing. - Lucky 6.9 20:38, 26 October 2006 (UTC)