Talk:Payne Stewart

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Does anyone think that the part about hypoxia is really far-fetched? Many experts disagree that hypoxia was the culprit, given both pilots and the crew would not all go hypoxic simultaneously, and someone on board should have realized there was a major problem. Maybe the sentence about the commission should say, "though the circumstances are still uncertain." Jalemo 01:05, 13 March 2007 (UTC)



I have changed the wording of 'cross-country plane accident' to 'plane crash'. There's no point trying to mince words like this, a plane crash is a plane crash however it's caused and whatever way the people onboard are killed. 81.77.202.210 12:41, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] 9/11 mention

Just becuase the circumstances of Payne Stewart's death is mentioned at 9/11: Debunking The Myths, doesn't mean it is relevant here [1]. While the Payne Stewart example is relevant for debunking 9/11 myths, the fact that it is used to debunk 9/11 myths if of little importance for explaining the event itself, thus no mention of the 9/11 connection is really necessary on the Stewart article. Wikipedia articles are not indiscriminate collections of information. Thanks. --ZimZalaBim (talk) 13:31, 6 September 2006 (UTC)

Bro, you dont know what you are talking about. This event has been prominently and widely been talked about in those circles. That you do not know it is not ... ah, wtf, i dont care. --Striver 15:15, 6 September 2006 (UTC)
Bro, the point is that its been talked about "in those circles" (9/11 related stuff) therefore it is relevant to mention in "those" articles. But in terms of writing an encyclopedic biography of the golfer, Payne Stewart, the NATO-9/11 connection of his tragic death is much less relevant, let alone "talked about" among fans of the golfer. That's what I mean when I say "reciprocal relevance" is not automatic [2]. --ZimZalaBim (talk) 15:19, 6 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Separate article on the crash

While working with a couple of other editors on the article for the Learjet 35 (part of the Wikiproject Aircraft), we believe that the crash itself is notable enough to justify its own article (besides the fact that Payne was on board, the circumstances, from an aviation point of view, are quite significant). It was mentioned on the Lear 35 talk page that before launching into building such an article, mention should be made here, in case anyone has thoughts/viewpoints on it that should be considered. Feel free to discuss here or on the appropriate section of the Lear article, as I'll be watching both. I hope to start on the project within a day or so. Akradecki 23:53, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

  • An interesting point, especially in view of the fact that nearly half the article is about this incident. Stewart also made a moderate name for himself as a golfer, you know. I think your point is that even without a celebrity aboard, this was a unique airplane crash and could be further elaborated upon. Wahkeenah 01:31, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
The new article is now up, at 1999 South Dakota Learjet crash. I've added a link in the appropriate paragraph, and made a couple other minor corrections, but I'll leave it to the regular editors of this article to determine how much, if any, of the "Death" section to trim. Akradecki 00:41, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] International?

At a time of international domination of the golf scene in the late 1980s and early 1990s he was often the highest ranked American player.

This is just a question really. Is Wikipedia inherently American? The term 'international domination' is only relevant from a US standpoint.