User talk:Pax Arcane

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[edit] Welcome to Wikipedia!!!

Hello Pax Arcane! Welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. If you decide that you need help, check out Wikipedia:Where to ask a question, ask me on my talk page, or place {{helpme}} on your talk page and someone will show up shortly to answer your questions. Please remember to sign your name on talk pages using four tildes (~~~~); this will automatically produce your name and the date. Below are some recommended guidelines to facilitate your involvement. Happy Editing! ≈ jossi ≈ t • @ Getting Started Wikipedia Tutorial How to edit a page The five pillars of Wikipedia Manual of Style Be bold in editing How to write a great article WikiProjects Getting your info out there Neutral Point of View Attribution Cite your sources Uploading images Image use policy Getting more Wikipedia rules Policy Library Getting Help New contributors' help page Where to ask a question Help Desk Frequently Asked Questions Getting along Wikiquette Civility Sign your posts Wikipedians Conflict resolution Getting technical Pages needing attention Peer review Utilities Village pump

≈ jossi ≈ (talk) 04:52, 4 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Autoblocks

Y	Your request to be unblocked has been granted for the following reason(s): Autoblock of 130.94.123.179 lifted or expired. Request handled by: ~ Riana ⁂ 13:19, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

Y	Your request to be unblocked has been granted for the following reason(s): Autoblock of 207.195.245.98 lifted but I am raising an eyebrow here... How can you be on the same IP than a vandal twice? Request handled by: -- lucasbfr talk 22:54, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

Y	Your request to be unblocked has been granted for the following reason(s): Autoblock of 128.241.109.105 lifted or expired. Request handled by:  Netsnipe  ►  06:58, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

• To Admins that may notice, is there some way for this user to avoid these problems in the future, and keep using his anonymizer for privacy/security issues? Curt Wilhelm VonSavage 03:23, 29 October 2007 (UTC).

Nope. There's nothing we can do about it. And I should point out that editing via anonymizers are prohibited under the Wikipedia:Open proxies policy. If you're sick of being autoblocked, ask your ISP to allocate you a static IP address or refer them to Wikipedia:WikiProject on XFFs if a proxy is being used. --  Netsnipe  ►  06:58, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

Thank you for providing User:Arcana imperii Ascendo tuum with this info. I myself was also unaware of these policies you cited above regarding Wikipedia:Open proxies. Curt Wilhelm VonSavage 07:30, 29 October 2007 (UTC).

[edit] Careful to Avoid Personal Attacks

Arcana- I am not saying that you are doing this deliberately but some of your comments on the talk page of "Werner Erhard" could be construed as combative. Remember to comment on the edits not the editor. Good luck to you as well. :)Ebay3 17:40, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

I acknowledge what you've written. I just don't mince words, is all. I really do not have the luxury of time to discuss about discussions. I have to write to get a thought across concerning an edit or a non-NPOV edit/statement, and I'm not here for the latter...any emotive component anyone gets out of the text is what's there for them. I appreciate your communication. Best wishes- Arcana imperii Ascendo tuum 21:03, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

I appreciate that you appreciate that you are all in communication. Just kiddin, I couldn't resist jumping on the jargon bandwagon. Curt Wilhelm VonSavage 21:06, 26 October 2007 (UTC).

[edit] Your handle

"State secrets up yours" Very funny... You asked : Jossi...Jossi...Where have I heard that name before See the top of this talk page for a reminder. ≈ jossi ≈ (talk) 18:15, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

• laughs...yeah, I remembered later when looking back. ;) Arcana imperii Ascendo tuum 18:57, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Henrik's RfA thanks!

Thanks for supporting my RfA, it closed today with a final tally of 39 supports, 1 oppose and 1 neutral. As always, if you ever see me doing anything which would cause you to regret giving me your support, let me know. henrik•talk 19:01, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Thank you bunches!

Thank you so much for suppporting my RfA. I was promoted with a total of (44/1/0) - a vote of confidence from the community that I find humbling and motivating. I will not abuse your trust. Look forward to working with you! (Esprit15d 21:47, 5 November 2007 (UTC))

[edit] OhanaUnited's RfA

Thanks for voting at my RfA. Unfortunately, the result stands at 51 support, 21 oppose and 7 neutral which means that I did not succeed. As many expressed their appreciation of my works in featured portals during my RfA, I will fill up the vacuum position of director in featured portal candidates to maintain the standards of featured contents in addition to my active role in Good articles. Have a great day. OhanaUnited^{Talk page} 04:13, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

Y	Your request to be unblocked has been granted for the following reason(s): Autoblock of 128.241.109.31 lifted or expired. Request handled by:  Netsnipe  ►  02:39, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Been vs. Weed and Landmark Education Corporation

I was unable to find an article with this title. I did find one called Landmark Education ligigation, but it had not been deleted. Please give me a little more information, and I can investigate your concerns. Also, I am unsure of why you were unable to edit the Landmark Education page. Try again and let me know if you can this time. Additionally, your only talk page is an archive, which is not advisable. See if you can fix this. Let me know if you have any other questions.--Esprit15d(۝ • ۞ • ▲) 19:18, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

Everything about my talk page is kinda jury-rigged. I messed something up I can't fix. The Been Weed page has apparently been deleted by User:Triplejumper, or that section in the Landmark Education litigation section has been deleted by said user. Any help I can do, lemme know. Arcana imperii Ascendo tuum 00:03, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Thankspam

Thank you...

...for your participation, criticism, and support in my recent RfA, which succeeded with a final count of 90/1/1. I appreciate all of your kind words, criticism, and suggestions. I extend a special thanks to Acalamari for his nomination, and Dihydrogen Monoxide and Husond for their coaching and nominations. If you need help in any administrative matters, please contact me.

Thank you again and, best regards,
Neranei
This RfA thanks inspired by VanTucky's which was in turn inspired by LaraLove's which was inspired by The Random Editor's, which was inspired by Phaedriel's original thanks.

[edit] personal attacks

Please do not refer to other editors edits as hack jobs, especially on an article that is the subject of an m:OTRS complaint. I have reverted your recent edits to Werner Erhard per complaints to the Wikimedia Foundation. Please do not reinsert them further. ⇒SWATJester ^{Son of the Defender} 05:04, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

I referred to the edits as hack jobs. When you reverted what you did was essentially bowing down to special interest groups who began to edit after abandoning the discussion process. I ask you to respectfully consider the reverts and look at the situation, not the POV complaintants. Arcana imperii Ascendo tuum (talk) 05:19, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

Referring to the edits as hack jobs is unhelpful and uncivil. As for "bowing down to special interest groups" there is nothing of the sort. This is not a battleground, nor a soapbox for you to fight a war against "special interest groups". ⇒SWATJester ^{Son of the Defender} 05:27, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

I was doing the civil thing by engaging in discussion to reach a compromise with the material. The discussions were ignored and the editors went ahead with edits some of the other editors didn't necessarily agree on. No soapbox here. I wanted to revert back to where we were as editors on the discussion page before some editors went ahead and edited. I ask you to respectfully take a look at the discussion page and follow what happened. Arcana imperii Ascendo tuum (talk) 05:40, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

It may be that there is no soapbox, but there is more going on with that page than what is apparent on the talk page, per information provided to OTRS. ⇒SWATJester ^{Son of the Defender} 06:10, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

You're right. But I think the info provided to OTRS may have been inaccurate, and I've requested MedCab to clear up some of the fundamental problems the editors (myself included) are having editing this article. Is it possible for me to obtain a copy of the OTRS ticket so that I know what's going on that I may be unaware of? Arcana imperii Ascendo tuum (talk) 06:36, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

See WP:OTRS. The contents of emails sent to the OTRS addresses are confidential. ≈ jossi ≈ (talk) 06:47, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Mediation-cabal stuff

Hi:

May I attach myself in some way to Wikipedia:Mediation Cabal/Cases/2007-11-17 Werner Erhard ?

-- Pedant17 (talk) 00:18, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

I sure as hell hope you can. Open a Medcab yourself with your complaints regarding the view of "Pressman's book as a novel" and piggyback on. Arcana imperii Ascendo tuum (talk) 01:24, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks for your vote

Thank you for participating in my RfA, which passed with a vote of (53/0/1). As a token of my appreciation, please accept this bowl of tzatziki. I feel honored to be trusted by so many of you. Wikipedia is such a large community, that my acceptance in the face of such large numbers truly is humbling. I will use my new tools to continue the tasks for which you entrusted them to me. Gratefully, EncycloPetey (talk) 18:34, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Thank you for the barnstar

That was a pleasant surprise! How did you know that I always wanted the peace star? And congratulations on your new name! May I call you "Pax"? ;-) — Sebastian 00:21, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

You're quite welcome! And yes, "Pax" is the prefered nom vera. Peace and continued success as an admin and editor. Pax Arcane (talk) 02:21, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

{{207.67.148.160|Autoblocked because your IP address was recently used by "Kwikniterebel". The reason given for Kwikniterebel's block is: "Abusing sock puppet accounts".|FisherQueen|718331}}

The above IP address is an anonymizer address. As has been stated before, it is against policy for you to edit with them. Please do not edit with this IP. The Evil Spartan (talk) 03:24, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

The policy said it was discouraged, but if it is now prohibited, so be it. Please remove the notice from my page. I am not using the software. Thanks! Pax Arcane (talk) 04:30, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

Apologies. I'm still looking through the evidence, and it just looks like a lot of people (unfortunately) use the anonymizer. I mean to remove the tag but I missed your userpage. You should be able to edit now. Try refreshing your cache and going to WP:SANDBOX. In any case, there's a good chance your anonymizer will have an option to only disable editing Wikipedia and Wikimedia pages; you might try that.The Evil Spartan (talk) 04:48, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

When the evidence is sorted, does the blox box up there go away? --Pax Arcane 05:40, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] RE:Help with biased editor providing WP:3O

I am sorry I am just now replying; it got lost among my other notes. I have replied on the talk page of the article.--Esprit15d • talk • contribs 18:33, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

Still, I appreciate you taking the time out. A lot of chunks got hacked out, you're right. I have a copy of the paper if you're interested in reading it, the study. It's pretty benign but noteworthy for the reasons I just included responding to the webpage in question (responding to your second 3O). Feel free if you need any info. I feel as though the WP:3O process was hijacked by a an non-NPOV editor who should have recused themselves. --Pax Arcane 18:40, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

I just broke the 3-Revert Rule. Ole Joe Fresco should be here in a jiffy to scold me! --Pax Arcane 04:13, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

Save yourself the trouble and self-revert :) ≈ jossi ≈ (talk) 04:50, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

Yessir, occifer! --Pax Arcane 05:04, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Canvassing

Hi, please don't canvass for support when you are involved in an editing dispute. Also please be careful how you describe another editor's actions, in particular never describe good faith edits, however misguided, as anything like vandalism. The appropriate venue to recruit more eyes to a dispute is requests for comment. Thanks, Guy (Help!) 17:50, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

I appreciate the advice...and THEN noticed you must be on Jossi's (Joseph's) speed-dial. This is helping for the piece I am writing...I won't retire on the pay, but I've got enough to not worry about the rent for HEY HEY! Happy New Year! BTW: If you're retired, act as such. Get rid of your account and stop handling favors for friends. Peace! --Pax Arcane 18:11, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

FYI, I have not asked anyone to intervene. It would be a good idea you start assuming good faith for a change. ≈ jossi ≈ (talk) 18:19, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

FYI, how would you know that unless you were constantly hovering over my account for some reason? Jossi, you're as trustworthy as a cult leader. ;) Happy New Year! You're as trustworthy as they come! A saint! A prophet? You're all good in my book, sir. :) --Pax Arcane 18:29, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] WP:3RR Warning

Please refrain from undoing other people's edits repeatedly, as you are doing at Landmark Education. If you continue, you may be blocked from editing Wikipedia. Note that the three-revert rule prohibits making more than three reversions in a content dispute within a 24 hour period. Additionally, users who perform a large number of reversions in content disputes may be blocked for edit warring, even if they do not technically violate the three-revert rule. Rather than reverting, discuss disputed changes on the talk page. The revision you want is not going to be implemented by edit warring. Thank you. ≈ jossi ≈ (talk) 03:50, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the advice. You made the papes, btw...for being as crooked (as noted in the Reg)[1](and Cult News)[2] as they come. Kudos! Don't ever, ever, ever admonish me about NPOV again. Consider this a divorce. --Pax Arcane 00:58, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

I suggest you quickly change your attitude to one much more civil, or you'll find yourself blocked anyway. Comments such as the one above, and this one on WP:RFPP, are completely unacceptable. - auburnpilot talk 01:03, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

I am completely frightened AuburnPilot. Thank you for the advice. --Pax Arcane 02:04, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

No need to be frightened, as I am not making veiled threats as you claimed on WP:RPP. Unequivocally, if you continue making uncivil comments and personal attacks, you will be blocked. - auburnpilot talk 02:45, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

Stop trying to bully me. This discussion is over. Please leave me alone. --Pax Arcane 02:47, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Inquiry

You have been a prominent critic of Jossi's editing during the recent discussion of The Register's article. I am exploring this issue, and would like you to show me, on my talk page, the 3 worst edits that you see that Jossi has made.

I make this request because I went through a pretty good volume of the potentially COI edits posted in that discussion, and I found nothing which would raise for me any alarm at all. What would you show me to change my mind?--Jimbo Wales (talk) 19:41, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

Give me a week, Jimbo. Cade had two months, so far I've only had a few days and some change. Cool? --Pax Arcane 20:59, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] AN notification

You have been mentioned on the administrators' noticeboard (Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard#Inflammatory comments). I am informing you to ensure you are aware of the report and have an opportunity to respond. Vassyana (talk) 07:18, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

I know you're a friend of Joseph Fresco's and all, and this is really petty and unnecessary. You provided a biased WP:3O on the LE page, probably based on that fact, when I requested one last year. Your diffs are 'laughable' on the Admin board btw. --Pax Arcane 08:34, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

I would ask you to retire this account, which I feel could confuse editors into relating your misbehavior with my account. There are bunches of account names out there; mine doesn't have to be one of your choices. - Arcayne (^{cast a spell}) 23:45, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

I respectfully decline, as I've changed my username from a less offensive one to a soft-sounding one. I don't see any confusion, really. --Pax Arcane 00:29, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

I do not mind you choosing a name close to mine, so long as you behave. I would like to give you notice that if you are indeed blocked for uncivil behavior, i will petition to have the name stripped from you. I will not have my account associated to yours even if by accident. I hope this will act as a significant calmative to to your edits. - Arcayne (^{cast a spell}) 04:30, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

My first name here was a phrase that started as "Arcana" which was what I was referred by. I don't know wiki's policy on ownership of a name, but I'll ask around. I highly doubt anyone has confused us and haven't found any evidence anyone ever has, even when I was referred ro as "Arcane." At any rate, I'm trying to be more constructive. No need to threaten me please, just assume good faith, compadre. It's not healthy to personalise my behavior when clearly no one has confused us. I'm generally referred to as "Pax" currently, and there's no one with that as their first name complaining. I think irregardless, as I've said, there's no need to personalise this and have a set of conditions to strip me of my handle. --Pax Arcane 04:37, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

It certainly wasn't intended as a threat. I have every right to protect my account from - even unintended proximal confusion. I will do so, should the need arise. I am sorry if you feel that is a load you have to bear - but you chose it by not doing a bit more research before choosing it to find something somewhat more unique. - Arcayne (^{cast a spell}) 05:12, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] A caution

You are currently utilising disruptive and/or inflammatory comments ([3]), directed at other users. This is a violation of Wikipedia:Civility and Wikipedia:No personal attacks, and you are kindly requested to stop. Further disruption of discussions and the ability to contribute constructively of other editors will result in a block—you're really not doing yourself any favours. Regards, AGK (talk) 18:50, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the heads-up. I mean that. I admit I'm rude, uncivil, frustrated, and crass at this point. Frustrating times don't require incivility. --Pax Arcane 19:06, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Don't do that

This. Lawrence § t/e 08:40, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, I know. I think people need to have a sense of humor, though. That page is a hornets' nest of Jo's adherents and minions, assorted others seizing an opportunity for power, mindless bickering. I can't understand the flurry of activity on that page, Lawrence. It's like a crowd of people fighting at an ipecac clearance sale. I get that my attempts at humor aren't helping and I apologise. --Pax Arcane 08:54, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Warning

You've promised to be more civil in the posts above and then you made a negative personal remark about another editor.[4] Have you read Wikipedia:Civility and Wikipedia:No personal attacks? Please refrain from making further edits until you've read them again. The best way to avoid accidentally making negative personal remarks is by making no personal remarks. Focus on the edits, not the editors. ·:· Will Beback ·:· 06:10, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

I understand but the statement was benign. It was an honest question, no critcism intended. I would venture as that article has been hovered over by said user, and the access he has to information pertaining to subject, the question was straight up, and it was what it was. --Pax Arcane 04:40, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] March 2008

You have been blocked from editing for a period of 24 hours in accordance with Wikipedia's blocking policy for violating the three-revert rule . Please be more careful to discuss controversial changes or seek dispute resolution rather than engaging in an edit war. If you believe this block is unjustified, you may contest the block by adding the text {{unblock|your reason here}} below. B (talk) 23:44, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

This block is made per this report. Please note also that calling a good faith edit "vandalism" is considered incivil. --B (talk) 23:45, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

...and this is precisely the sort of behavior that I was talking about whenI asked you to choose a different account ID. You can either retire this account voluntarily, or I can petition to have it retired. Your call. - Arcayne (^{cast a spell}) 23:51, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

Umm, I'm missing something. What's wrong with his user name? --B (talk) 00:01, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

Read the section titled "AN notification" a few headers above this one. Arcayne would like to force Pax Arcane to change his name (which cannot be done). - auburnpilot talk 00:03, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

Oh. I don't think that's necessary. They don't even spell "Arcane" the same way. But even ignoring that, we have user:Daniel and how many hoards of people who are Daniel (Last name)? If he were Arcayne2 or something, I could understand having a problem with that, but this is different enough that people are unlikely to confuse them. --B (talk) 00:29, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

For the record, I see no problem with this username. This user is not going to be confused with Arcayne in any way. --Jayron32.talk.contribs 00:47, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

Even though I am concerned over a possible confusion, if you folk think such is unlikely to occur, then I will let it go. - Arcayne (^{cast a spell}) 18:11, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

What's up? Micahmedia (talk) 06:11, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Landmark Education

Could extend the protection for the Landmark Education page? Issue at hand is still unresolved. Editor who requested protection not participating in discussion. --Pax Arcane 07:13, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

Well, the protection is still in place for the moment. If there is trouble when it expires please place a new listing at WP:RFPP.

On a side point, please use wiki-markup (e.g. ''') rather than HTML markup (like <b>) in your sig. Stifle (talk) 09:54, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

Looks good to me. I was going to drop the cult thing in favor of moving forward, but this does back up what I had put in originally. I'm a bit busy at the moment, but I'll put this forward when I get a chance if you haven't already. Micahmedia (talk) 01:06, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Request for mediation not accepted

A Request for Mediation to which you were are a party was not accepted and has been delisted. You can find more information on the case subpage, Wikipedia:Requests for mediation/Landmark Education. For the Mediation Committee, WjBscribe 10:45, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Suggestion

I looked over some of your previous edit summaries and your candor is somewhat lacking, if not downright inappropriate. Please look over WP:CIVIL and WP:NPA, and abide by those policies on Wikipedia. I would also highly recommend that you consider the WP:ADOPT program, it would be a good way for you to gain some guidance from a more experienced Wikipedian. Cirt (talk) 19:29, 8 May 2008 (UTC)