Talk:Pax Syriana

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I removed

Some believe that the name of the 2005 movie Syriana is inspired by the term Pax Syriana.

bcz WP is not a rumor mill, and it makes no sense if "some believe" is excised. We need to know two specific instances of someone believing that, and the reasons they give, so we can decide whether the shared belief that that language asserts is notable.
I removed

refer to an idealized Middle Eastern country

in favor of "hypothetical" (or the military "notional" might work, tho it's a little obscure). Besides the more concrete claim than "some believe", i found the

used by Think tanks

formulation to be probably testable, and to be moving in the direction of specificity that offers some hope of verfiability in the hands for a researcher more prepared than i to hunt down some specifics -- which is why i left it in rather than treating like the "Syrian is about Pax Syriana". But i thot that it was better asserted and patently unsourced, than let stand in a way that suggested saying "think tanks" w/o examples is what we mean by verifiability.
--Jerzyt 23:46, 18 December 2005 (UTC)

Still, the movie is the reason for this entry. There is no citation to back up existence of the political concept (?) of "Syriana". "Pax Syriana" is different - there are a myriad variations on "Pax Romana" and this is just one of them. If anything it could have its own entry, but it is not a subsection of "Syriana".--Jack Upland 21:55, 6 March 2006 (UTC)

"Syriana" without the "Pax" is meaningless. So move it to Pax Syriana. It's also unsourced, and unclear that the term is in any way notable. If the moviemakers think that "'Syriana' is a very real term used by Washington think-tanks to describe a hypothetical reshaping of the Middle East...", there is no reason not to mention that on the article on the movie instead of making a separate article just about that statement. dab () 23:01, 15 March 2006 (UTC)

I dispute the film studio's claims that this was a "very real term". I've worked for think tanks in Washington in the 1990s and I've never seen that term used. So I removed what really was a speculative definition from the introduction. I also revised the article to reflect more accurately the term "Pax Syriana", which has been in existence for at least 30 years. Alcarillo 16:22, 2 March 2007 (UTC)