Talk:Paul Stastny

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[edit] Stastny's citizenship

Is there any documentation that he's a dual U.S./Canadian citizen? Also, is he eligible and does he have Slovak citizenship? --Nlu (talk) 00:49, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

Well, he played for Team USA -- US citizenship is required for that (and he grew up in Missouri as well). And of course, Canada grants citizenship via birth. I have no clue about Slovak citizenship though. -→Buchanan-Hermit™/?! 01:46, 18 December 2006 (UTC)
He plays for Team USA I believe. Jmlk17 03:18, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
Yup plays for Team USA, and the standard for hockey players is to go by the country they have represented internationally. In cases where they haven't then its a bit harder to do as you have to go by where they were born unless you can source another country. -Djsasso (talk) 04:04, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
According to this (found through the article on Slovak nationality law), he should be considered a Slovak. − Twas Now ( talk • contribs • e-mail ) 10:17, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
Not necessarily; just opens up another avenue of citizenship. Jmlk17 14:09, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Last name

I am confused as to why Stastny's last name differs from the rest of his family. His parents are Peter and Darina Šťastný, and his cousins are Anton and Marián Šťastný. Why, then, is Paul a Stastny? GaryColemanFan (talk) 16:06, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

Just style... he was born in North America in a non-Slavic country, and seems to have adopted the style. It's the same with his brother Yan Stastny. Jmlk17 17:50, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for the explanation. That clears it all up. Best wishes, GaryColemanFan (talk) 23:19, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
Very welcome. :) Jmlk17 23:47, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] GA status On Hold

This article’s GA Review is currently on hold, as I have identified several issues that need to be addressed before the article can reach GA status. My goal for this review is to be as thorough as possible, and I’ve broken the review into four sections; Required Changes, assessment, comments, and suggestions.

Changes required for GA Passage:

  1. Add the Persondata template
  2. Rewrite the introduction so it consists of two paragraphs that are at least three sentences in length each, and adequately summarize the article’s contents. This section should include info about his early life before junior hockey, and mention the fact he’s the son of Peter Stastny much earlier in the intro
  3. In the statistics section, note the specific day on which the stats were last updated, using wikitext something like*Last updated 2007-11-27<ref>insert where you got his NHL stats info from here</ref>
  4. The info about Paul’s dual citizenship and his mom being American is important enough that it should be mentioned in the early years section, but could be reiterated in the “International Play” section without any problem
  5. Instead of referring to him as “Paul Stastny” at the start of both the “Pre NHL” and “Colorado Avalanche” sections, simply refer to him as “Stastny.” It’s best to give the reader some credit and figure that they know the article is referring to Paul and not one of his family members. This occurs again in the third sentence under the “Colorado Avalanche” section, and yet again to start the “Style of Play” section.
  6. The third sentence of the second paragraph of the “Pre NHL” section reads, “Stastny then helps the team win its second NCAA Men's Ice Hockey Championship in….” Stay consistent by using past tense, changing the word “helps” to “helped.”
  7. The end of the seventh sentence under the “Avalanche” section reads, “…who was mentored by Peter when he started his career in the Nordiques.” It should read, “…when he started his career with the Nordiques.”
  8. In the third sentence of the third paragraph under the “Avalanche” section, insert the word “with" into the sentence so it reads, “only one point in eight games, and with the Avalanche losing top players….”


GA review (see here for criteria)
  1. It is reasonably well written.
    a (prose): b (MoS):
  2. It is factually accurate and verifiable.
    a (references): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR):
  3. It is broad in its coverage.
    a (major aspects): b (focused):
  4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.
    Fair representation without bias:
  5. It is stable.
    No edit wars etc.:
  6. It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate.
    a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
  7. Overall:
    Pass/Fail:


Overall comments:

  • The references are numerous & well-formatted; excellent work!
  • If promoted to GA status, the article will have be diligently updated during the course of his career; if the info falls too far behind, it could get demoted

Suggestions for future improvement (non-required GA review potential changes):

  • Since there aren’t currently any pictures in the body of article, consider using quote boxes to perk the reader’s interest a bit more. It would be especially easy to do this in the “Style of Play” section, where there are already some great quotes.
  • There are gaps in Paul’s timeline between his birth and playing junior hockey; more info about his childhood and early years is needed to round out the article. Some things to consider are; what high school did he attend; did he play more than one sport in high school, what were the exact years he moved to New Jersey and St. Louis...stuff like that. This info might be tough to find, but would be well worth the effort to include it.

When the required changes have been made, please notify me on my talk page, and I will consider the article for GA passage. If the required changes aren’t addressed within seven days, the article will fail and can be renominated at a later time. For anyone else reading this review, please consider reviewing an article or two at GAN to help with our current backlog of nominations. Thanks for your contribution to Wikipedia thus far, and good luck with this article in the future! Monowi (talk) 05:23, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] GA Review passed

After viewing the changes to the article, I believe it meets the current requirements for Good Article status; congratulations! Keep up the good work. Regards, Monowi (talk) 05:40, 22 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] FAC?

I've done some copyediting on the article, but it looks really good and I think in its current state it should pass FAC. Comments? Maxim(talk) 00:25, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

Thanks a lot for your help. Do you think this should go to FAC now or to peer review first?--Serte [ Talk · Contrib ] 19:56, 26 March 2008 (UTC)
I personally consider peer review as a bit of a joke, as it has never attracted many comments for me... I usually ask at WT:HOCKEY. Maxim(talk) 19:57, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Lead photo

What happened to the other photo that was in the infobox? This new one is not exactly the best image of Stastny. He seems to be trying to scratch his nose or something, and just looks funny. I'm thinking that when the point comes for this to be on the front page, do we really want a picture of Stastny all weirded out? Kaiser matias (talk) 07:38, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

I think this photo is better since it has higher resolution, better colours, closer to the subject etc. Is it just the look on his face that is bothering you there's other high res images available. --Krm500 (talk) 07:46, 5 April 2008 (UTC)
I understand why this one would have been chosen. It is much better quality. It's just something that jumped out at me as soon as a went to the page. If no one else has any concerns, I'll leave it, seeing how it does what it's supposed to and all. Kaiser matias (talk) 07:51, 5 April 2008 (UTC)