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[edit] Infobox image

Due to Fox's terms of use and source information, the previous promotional picture has been replaced by a cropped television screenshot. If you seek to replace it with a promotional image, please specify its original source and copyright information. -- Ladida 14:21, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Narcissist?

Removing this category...

[edit] Theory

It is possible that the name Kellerman is a reference to the Secret Service agent Roy Kellerman who was a witness to the JFK assassination. This would make sense, due to the presidential relation of the show. If anyone can find a source to confirm this, it would be a nice piece of trivia to add. --TraumaPill 23:45, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

That's Really interesting. Couldn't it be added if it was made clear that it might be a coincidence? "Kellerman was also the last name of SS agent Roy Kellerman, who was a witness to the JFK assassination. It is unclear weather this was intentional or not." Linkskywalker 11:25, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Special Forces

He's former U.S. Army Special Forces, he wears their insignia on the lapel of his suit jacket in one episode. Should this be mentioned as a factoid in the intro? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Joffeloff (talk • contribs) 21:46, 3 December 2006 (UTC).

In which episode? Ladida 00:04, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
Pretty sure it's S02E12. --Joffeloff 21:47, 12 December 2006 (UTC)
SO2E21 has him in his U.S. Army Rangers uniform. 80.57.138.148 12:55, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Real Name

Forgive me if I'm wrong, but isn't Kellerman one of his cover names (The most used one)? I always thought his real name was Owen Kravecki (Spelling's probably wrong there). —The preceding unsigned comment was added by InvertedSaint (talk • contribs) 09:34, 5 December 2006 (UTC).

Owen Kravecki is the name he is living under. It might not be his real name. Paul Kellerman may be one of his cover names but is the name all the characters refer to him as. -- Ladida 00:23, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
Would anyone care if I appended one of the paragraphs to mention that Kellerman may not be his real name, and viewers are unsure as to his real name due to the amount of pseudonyms used? InvertedSaint 15:31, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
Geez, his sister calls him Paul Kellerman, and her last name is Kellerman, so his real name is Paul Kellerman.68.151.50.31 (talk) 16:30, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Status

The function of the infobox is to provide a brief overview of the character. Thus, the "status" parameter in the infobox is not meant to be detailed. Also, the allowance of only "Active/Unknown/Deceased" is to keep all the fictional character infoboxes in Wikipedia consistent. Furthermore, it minimises the in-universe style and tone of the article. Regards, Ladida 03:26, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

I think "Presumed Dead" should be considered acceptable. There are plenty of shows where the death is never explicitly shown but we are left to presume the character is dead, even though there is a remote possibility the writers can throw in a future twist. Consider Adriana La Cerva from the Sopranos. Her death is never seen, but we assume she's dead (not that Sal faked it somehow because he is actually an informant, etc.). The same happened to Kellerman. We didn't see the blood splatter across his face, but we can assume he's dead based on the available information.Talmage 04:47, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Spoiler

Officially, as revealed in episode "The Rat", he is no longer listed as a member of the Secret Service or even as an employee of the Federal Government.

Needs to be put below the spoiler line. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.178.131.211 (talk • contribs) 10:11, 18 January 2007

[edit] Number of killed people

Hi to all, in a blog I found a guy that marks every person killed by kellerman; it could be a possibile trivia-item? Sorry for bad english,151.41.135.202 11:55, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

While that sort of information is interesting, it is not encyclopaedic. The trivia section should be reserved for behind-the-scenes information (with source cited), which could not be put in other sections of the article. Regards, Ladida 13:30, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Death

There is no doubt about his death.

  • The Character Paul Adelstein has left Prison Break and is employed on a new show.
  • There were numerous shots released from the AUTOMATIC weapons of the murderers.
  • No one else was around to stop the murderers.
  • They only would have left the scene after target(s) had been killed.
  • When giving testimony - he says he knows he will be killed.
  • The last sentence Paul Kellerman said was "In the French Resistance, it was considered as high an honor to smile when facing a Nazi firing squad...Took you guys long enough."
  • Screenshot of his death [1] for the non-believers.

Please give the man some respect and acknowledge his death. Stop creating stupid conspiracy theories and saying he is "Unknown" when we know he is "deceased" Iwillfixit 01:13, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

Yes, I agree. My only defense was that IIRC, Sara's page listed her as "deceased" at the end of Season 1 when she OD'd, but this looks pretty cut and dried. I have changed it to "deceased". Besides, Kellerman couldn't possibly have been referring to the guard - his sentence makes no sense, IIRC he smiled before getting shot as well. Adding to your list, Kellerman AND the guard were both sitting in the back of the car, and the assassins clearly shot through the back numerous times with, as you say, automatic machine guns. 205.206.239.39 04:54, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
Until we see his body, its unknown. It happened OFFSCREEN, whereas we've seen other characters like Veronica, Abruzzi, and Tweener all get shot onscreen.
For all we know, Reynolds arranged for the gunmen to shoot the cops and take him away, because she knew the Company was going to try to kill him.
When Mahone got shot by Kellerman, and when C-Note hung himself, one could assume they had died too. But they hadn't. --DrBat 21:07, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
Alright smart ass we'll leave his stupid status as unknown as I am not going to waste my life constantly changing it back to deceased. I should point out however that you quoted Paul himself "It's not really ambiguous" and I think that pretty much sums up the fact he is dead. Obviously this death is different from all the other ones you quoted but if you want to bring him back to life then all I can say is good luck to you. Iwillfixit 00:45, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
  • The Character Paul Adelstein has left Prison Break and is employed on a new show.
Have you got a source for this?--The Negotiator 01:23, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
You have changed my mind, for the purposes of editing, anyway. Yes, the "ambiguous" thing has happened to Sara, C-Note, Mahone and Abruzzi. In fact, ALL major character deaths, as well as most of the minor ones IIRC, have been clearly shown onscreen: Veronica (clear bullet wounds to the forehead and heart + body chopped up), Abruzzi (said before, shot many times in the chest with machine guns) Tweener (shot several times by Mahone in the head and upper chest at point blank), Steadman (clearly shown shooting himself in the head) and Haywire (clearly shown jumping off a mill, with closeup of the body). I still think he's dead, but I'll leave it unknown. 205.206.239.39 02:57, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

Exactly but the main issue there, is that always some people wants to update the status to deceased. In fact, even if Paul Adelstein is working on a new show, it does not mean he will not come back for the new season. Even if Kellerman seems more dead than alive

If Sara is alive after season three then it stands to reason that Kellerman can be alive as well (this is prisonbreak!) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.243.253.113 (talk) 15:15, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Jew?

Why is he in the list of fictional Jews from Wikipedia? Is there any information in the series about this? Speedy3702 19:28, 1 July 2007 (UTC)

No idea. No, there hasn't been any info regarding that. It's been removed. -- Ladida 12:19, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Season 3?

"Kellerman was seen by Lincoln walking the streets of Panama."
Any proof on this one? At least naming the episode would be useful. Likus 22:53, 6 November 2007 (UTC)