Talk:Paul A. Newman

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Paul A. Newman does exist. The page is listing factual evidence to, I admit, a very unpopular, but all the same factual source, and gives explaination to why it is important. The article explains the unique style the author takes, and the ways in which the work incorperates both ancient and religious sources, as well as refering to new events. The unique style of the book is very important since it combines many elements into one bizarre, yet complete series that entails a very worthwhile story. Truth in shadow (talk) 06:53, 11 June 2008 (UTC) I would also like to add that it is clearly stated in the citation that was posted on the article for Paul A. Newman, that books, schools, etc. do not need to explain thier significance. As this is a fictional character in a book, this article, as clearly stated, is exempt from that critean. Truth in shadow (talk) 07:19, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

I mistakenly applied db-7 and have removed it, replacing it with an unreferenced tag. A quick google search returned no obvious results. It would help your article to provide good references to assert Notability. Faradayplank (talk) 07:31, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

Thanks. I have never made a page on this site before. I read the rules, but, obviously, I was missing a few things. I will get it straitened out as fast as I can. Thanks for your help and patients. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Truth in shadow (talk • contribs) 07:34, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Assertion of notability

I'm afraid it takes more than your personal assertion that this person, character, or work of fiction is notable. You have misread what the nomination for speedy deletion said. What it explained was that the method of nomination was incorrect, NOT that you are exempt from proving notability of the subject of the article.

In regard to notable people, I will refer you to WP:BIO which states A person is presumed to be notable if he or she has been the subject of published secondary source material which is reliable, intellectually independent, and independent of the subject.

  • If the depth of coverage is not substantial, then multiple independent sources may be needed to prove notability; trivial coverage of a subject by secondary sources may not be sufficient to establish notability.
  • Primary sources may be used to support content in an article, but they do not contribute toward proving the notability of a subject.

In regard to fictional material, I will refer you to WP:NB which states A book is generally notable if it verifiably meets through reliable sources, one or more of the following criteria: 1. The book has been the subject of multiple, non-trivial published works whose sources are independent of the book itself, with at least some of these works serving a general audience. This includes published works in all forms, such as newspaper articles, other books, television documentaries and reviews. Some of these works should contain sufficient critical commentary to allow the article to grow past a simple plot summary.

  • The immediately preceding criterion excludes media re-prints of press releases, flap copy, or other publications where the author, its publisher, agent, or other self-interested parties advertise or speak about the book.

2. The book has won a major literary award. 3. The book has been made or adapted with attribution into a motion picture that was released into multiple commercial theaters, or was aired on a nationally televised network or cable station in any country. 4. The book is the subject of instruction at multiple grade schools, high schools, universities or post-graduate programs in any particular country. 5. The book's author is so historically significant that any of his or her written works may be considered notable.

I can find no substantiation that a work of fiction, either about a character named, or work authored by Paul A. Newman has been published. The reference you offered yields no information regarding a publisher, publishing date, or where one may obtain copies of this work, find independent reviews or coverage of this work or that it is a relevant literary product. Please note that this criteria must be met for any article covering such a subject without exception. If supporting verifiable documentation from a reliable source is not forthcoming, all of the article related to this work are subject to deletion.

It may be tagged under the WP:PROD tag which allows for five days to assert the notability of the subject of the article prior to deletion. Wildhartlivie (talk) 07:49, 11 June 2008 (UTC)