User talk:Pattillo

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Welcome, and thank you for experimenting with the page National Council of Churches on Wikipedia. Your test worked, and it has been reverted or removed. Please take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to our encyclopedia. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. Cornell Rockey 16:00, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

Please do not delete content from articles on Wikipedia, as you did to National Council of Churches. It may be considered vandalism. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. Thank you. Cornell Rockey 16:04, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

Please stop. If you continue to delete or blank page contents or templates from Wikipedia, as you did to National Council of Churches, you will be blocked. Cornell Rockey 16:57, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Zelma Mullins Pattillo

A {{prod}} template has been added to the article Zelma Mullins Pattillo, suggesting that it be deleted according to the proposed deletion process. All contributions are appreciated, but the article may not satisfy Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and the deletion notice explains why (see also "What Wikipedia is not" and Wikipedia's deletion policy). You may contest the proposed deletion by removing the {{dated prod}} notice, but please explain why you disagree with the proposed deletion in your edit summary or on its talk page. Also, please consider improving the article to address the issues raised. Even though removing the deletion notice will prevent deletion through the proposed deletion process, the article may still be deleted if it matches any of the speedy deletion criteria or it can be sent to Articles for Deletion, where it may be deleted if consensus to delete is reached. Article is also a possible conflict of interest. See WP:Autobiography#Creating_an_article_about_yourself, which may or may not pertain in this case. Jmh123 05:54, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] By whose subjective deletion criteria?

Zelma Mullins Pattillo is a pioneer in TWO important areas of contemporary Christian ministry -- (1) trained and certified hospice chaplaincy and (2) ordained Southern Baptist women ministers, being one of the first dozen in that category in a denomination whose leaders are opposed to such ordination. Ordained women, even 20 years later, still number fewer than 1,800 out of 150,000+ Baptist ministers in the U.S.

If this does not justify inclusion, you will out of fairness need to remove countless male ministers already chronicled in Wikipedia but whose credentials -- academic and professional -- are far less significant. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by User:Pattillo (talk • contribs.

The criteria aren't subjective. Sources are extremely important, especially in today's Wikipedia. You need to include references to reliable, published sources that document her notability. Any male minister's bio I came across which was unsourced would receive the same tag from me. There are a million pages in the English Wikipedia, so new entries are more likely to get noticed than the countless old ones, but feel free to tag any bios you wish. The points you about Pattillo make her sound notable--now find some sources to support them please. Personal blogs can be a source, but do not contribute to the notability of an individual or the verifiability of information about them. Please see Wikipedia:reliable sources and Wikipedia:verifiability. Also note that when you assume the username of the person you are writing about, you are more likely to be questioned about a conflict of interest. Thanks. -Jmh123 03:02, 10 July 2007 (UTC)