User talk:Patrickneil/Alanya

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Alanya

Hey, nice job on that article! Keep up the good work. —Khoikhoi 18:55, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

Hello. I have been noticing that you have been doing good work on that article.. Good job! I think it is very close to being in a position where it can pass GA. If you need any extra help, I will be glad to help. Unfortunately there aren't enough editors who are on WikiProject Turkey, so many articles are extremely underdeveloped. Cheers! Baristarim 15:48, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

Note

the *s refer to "işaretli olanlar daha sonra Vali olmuşlardır." which I am having trouble translating. Can a proficient help?--Patrickneil 00:29, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

Means "those marked later became governors".. I am sorry that I haven't been able to help out with Alanya, hopefully I will try to do so later this weekend. Cheers! Baristarim 23:43, 18 January 2007 (UTC)

Alanya GA

You did a good job with that article and its GA status is pretty much solely thanks to you!! Therefore,

Turkish Barnstar of National Merit
I, Baristarim, award you the Turkish barnstar of National Merit for your hardwork on Alanya and its consequent GA status which is solely due to your dedication and hard work. Tebrikler!! Baristarim 16:40, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

By the way, have you signed up at all for Wikipedia:WikiProject Turkey? Maybe you will be interested. Cheers! Baristarim 16:40, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

Religious schools

Hi Patrick, the official position of the Turkish ministry of Education is that there are no religious schools in Turkey any more. There are vocational high schools for the training of religious scholars Imam Hatip schools but this system is currently withering away. There are also a number of loosely affiliated private schools, (see the paragraph Gülen's movement in Fethullah Gulen), which have a low-key conservative agenda, reflected in the attitudes of the staff rather than in any formal way such as the curriculum. These may aspire to be religious schools at some stage but at the moment this is not permitted. Perhaps there is one in Alanya (I don't know), either way it's controversial to say there are religious schools per se in Alanya at the moment.

Well done with Alanya - very impressive article.

Right, what you say is true. The school I'm referring to, one of the top 3 high schools in the city, is Imam Hatip. I'll change the Alanya article to reflect this.--Patrickneil 17:33, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

Congratulations on Alanya

Very nice job in Alanya article man, would you consider improving the Antalya article as well? 85.104.158.245 10:33, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

Zile

Hi, Can you copy edit the article when you have time? Thanks--Ugur Olgun 17:39, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

Alanya

I don't understand. Why did you take out every single linked date, even ones in the references?--Patrick 18:12, 24 May 2007 (UTC)

I did not take out every linked date, only linked *partial dates*. Linked *full dates* remain. This issue is due to the date preference software.
Unfortunately the date preference software was badly designed. It combined date preference mechanism with the hyperlink mechanism. As a consequence, Wikipedia has lots of links to full dates. These links are not there to provide access to date articles. They are there to make the date preference mechanism work.
Unfortunately, many editors have the impression that Wikipedia convention is to link *all* date-like terms. That is why many partial date elements (e.g. day-only, month-only, year-only) are linked without contextual relevance to the article. Links relevent to context are good. Even plain english words can be linked when relevant. Thus the plain english word 'green' would not usually be linked. But it might be relevant in an article about 'magenta' because it is a comparable term and therefore relevant to the context.
The same applies to partial dates. Days, months and years are plain english. In the majority of cases readers are extremely unlikely to need follow links about them. For example, the year '2002' is unremarkable in almost all cases although it might be link-worthy in an article about palindromic years. That is why many editors assume that partial date links are added in error (for the reasons above), not essential context, and remove them as a matter of cleanup. If you look at Wikipedia:Featured articles, you will see that many of them have been cleaned up by editors in this way. It is one of the things that people mention as part of the review process. If you think that readers will follow some or all of the date links, feel free to add them back in.
Incidentally, you will notice that I made some other cleanup edits relating to temperature and distance units. It was all intended to improve the article. I hope that explains things. I can see you have done a lot on the article. Keep up the good work. Regards Lightmouse 19:56, 24 May 2007 (UTC)

Alanya Castle

Hi Patrick! I really appreciate the great contributions you are making for Alanya and the region. Just a suggestion, coming from a Turk it might surprise you, but I think most readers here will feel more at home in Alanya Castle than in Alanya Kalesi. I am a fanatic when it comes to official names or personal names but in this case, kalesi is just castle. You can check Bodrum Castle on that. In my viewpoint, so should Yağlı güreş be titled Oil wrestling, since it's the exact English equivalent, and the sport is not even exclusively Turkish/Turkic, but let that remain between us for the moment. :) Cretanforever 03:50, 16 June 2007 (UTC)