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[edit] "Something" not really Pattie-inspired?

An anonymous user refuted the well-known (and well-reported) legend of Pattie Boyd inspiring "Something" and other Harrison-penned tunes, including a statement that Harrison himself denied this. However, an external link that he/she provided says nothing about this statement and appears to be a somewhat poorly-written personal website of a fan. I've removed this link from the article, but the issue is on the table. Was "Something" inspired by Pattie or not? I invite the anonymous contributor (or anyone else) to provide a reference that quotes Harrison's refutation, or to add any other solid references either to confirm or deny this legend. Meanwhile, I've edited the article text to present both the common belief and the suspicion that it's merely a legend. — Jeff Q 15:25, 15 Aug 2004 (UTC)

George told once at an interview, which was on the radio that the song "Something" was maybe about Pattie, but that's all he said then followed with just talking other things from the song, as he didn't wanted got any further with the subject of the song being about Pattie. George was always very private about his marriage to her.

Pattie told Hello! magazine in 2004 though, George told her the song was written for her.

George in his autobiography "I Me Mine" states that Something was written specifically in mind for Ray Charles to sing. In an interview with George and Eric in 1990 (which can be found at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJgineevJDA) George states that Something was not written for Patti although, he states that everybody thinks it was written by him for her - he actually goes on to say that he wrote the song "Isn't it a pity" about Patti. There are other citations which I will find and add. I would also add that the first line of the song is directly taken from James Taylor's song "Something in the way she moves" which was first released on his eponymous album released in 1968 by apple and also that there are bootleg versions of the song "Something" from the "Let It Be" sessions in January 1969 and the lyrics are far from complete - indeed he asks Lennon for help - who comes up with "attracts me like a Pomegranate". Last but by no means least, is the song really a love song - after all the lyrics do say "I don't want to leave her now, you know I believe and how" and to the refrain "You're asking me will my love grow" he responds "I don't know" - hardly words of love.

[edit] Abuse

I've read abuse stories about Clapton and Boyd. Drink induced beatings and sexual abuse. Not very inpiring, yet relevant. Anyone know more? Divad 11:29, 26 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Does she still have the Clap?

Is she still married to Eric Clapton? I heard they were divorced.--Crestville 17:38, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

In the What is Life article it says that both Boyd and Clapton divorced and married other people.

Boyd definately isn't married to anyone else, and I'm pretty sure neither is Clapton.--Hepcat748 (talk) 18:42, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Guitarist in law

They never refered to each other as "husband in laws"...George once refered to Eric as his "guitarist in law"

[edit] Harrison compositions

I've deleted the passage that claimed that 'Something' is Harrison's only written contribution to the Beatles as he also wrote 'While My Guitar Gently Weeps' and 'Here Comes the Sun'. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Gdevet (talk • contribs)

The passage actually said it was The Beatles' only hit (i.e. hit single) written by Harrison, which is true. It doesn't really matter that much, though. MightyMoose22 >Abort, Retry, Fail?_ 03:56, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
Correction, "For You Blue" made #1 as a double A-side with Paul McCartney's "Long and Winding Road" in the USA. Though there is no doubt "Long and Winding Road" was the most popular of the two by a considerable margin, it still charted. 205.188.116.196 15:51, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Post-Pattie Clapton/Harrison relationship

"Clapton even organized, emceed, and performed at the Concert For George, the commemoration concert for George Harrison following his death."

This implies that Clapton showed up out of nowhere and hosted the Concert for George. More accurate would be, "While undoubtedly awkward at first, Clapton and Harrison remained close friends. They recorded, toured, and hung out together until Harrison died. Clapton was a natural choice to organize, emcee, and perform at the Concert For George, the commemoration concert for George Harrison following his death."

Antinice 18:10, 4 January 2007 (UTC) Antinice

[edit] External Links

Could you add: http://www.patriciaannboyd.piczo.com ? It's a fan website that includes all the pics of Pattie Modelling Career and with her relationships with George Harrison, Eric Clapton, Ron Weston and the other Beatles & Beatlegirls. It has also very recent pics. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 80.32.117.89 (talk) 10:42, 9 May 2007 (UTC).

[edit] Rating

I have upgraded this article, as (with a bit of cleaning and a few more references) could be a GA.--andreasegde (talk) 20:02, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] GA

I have started work on this article to get it ready for a GA rating.--andreasegde (talk) 13:45, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

There is some work to do on the references and their formatting, but it's almost there.--andreasegde (talk) 18:38, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
References are done.--andreasegde (talk) 12:37, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

In my humble opinion, I think that for this to get a GA it should have a more recent picture of Pattie. I think we could pull off a fair-use for that, considering average Wikipedia editors don't get to take photos of Pattie Boyd every day. (But who knows, Jimbo's probably married her already.) ;) Kodster (Willis) (Look what I can do) 22:17, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

A GA doesn't actually need a photo of the subject.--andreasegde (talk) 13:24, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Multiple Articles

Does anyone know that there is another article on Pattie? It's a bit hard to find because you have to go through the disambiguation link. I would deal with it myself but I haven't got the know-how. It might have some useful information.Kalleythenowhereman (talk) 23:21, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

I don't think so, but if you find one let us know.--andreasegde (talk) 12:36, 8 March 2008 (UTC)
I found it when I typed in Patty Boyd.So try typing in that and see if you can find it.Kalleythenowhereman (talk) 12:55, 11 March 2008 (UTC)
Patty Boyd has been redirected to this article.--andreasegde (talk) 12:13, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] (On review)

Oh no not another beatles related article... im still recovering from the last one , ok ok , no joking around. Im reviewing this article. Realist2 (talk) 16:23, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

Part 1 (A=Pass B=Pass)

Part 2 (A=Fail B=Pass C=Pass) - Sort citation tags.

Part 3 (A=Pass B=Pass) reluctantly, concerned about the Breakup section, its just not quite right...

Part 4 (A=Pass)

Part 5 (A=Pass)

Part 6 (A=Pass) - Is that extra Clapton picture needed though?

[edit] Issues

  • Lennon and Mick Jagger were also said to have had crushes on Boyd, with the latter admitting to Bebe Buell in the 1980s that he'd tried and failed to seduce Boyd for years.[11][19]

-Who was saying this? Tabloids? expand.

  • Breakdown

This section is really confusing, you have to read it like 3 times to understand it. It needs to be simplified some how.

  • Sort citations
LOL! Here we are again! (We should stop meeting like this, said the bishop to the actress = English joke :) I think you're right about the paragraph - I will look at it.--andreasegde (talk) 18:54, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Conclusion

Oh hold, these things are easy to sort out, might chip in myself.

A reviewer that actually works on an article to improve it while reviewing it? You, dear sir, are to be respected and congratulated. (No, I am not being sarcastic in the least - as someone once accused me of - but deeply thankful, and in awe). Some reviewers write more about changing one word, instead of just fixing it, which would have taken less time. I think you should get a Barnstar for this dilligence and effort.--andreasegde (talk) 19:06, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

I've spent hours on it, thats how i review articles, it makes it easier for people, if you give ppl to much bad news they just give up. Realist2 (talk) 19:10, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

You are a great reviewer. BTW, I have sorted the reference problems.--andreasegde (talk) 19:29, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

I think a tightening up of the break down section is in order then it is defo worthy of a GA statues to be proud of. Realist2 (talk) 19:34, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

ok, this article is now worthy of GA. Realist2 (talk) 21:10, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

I thank you kindly, Realist2. --andreasegde (talk) 23:34, 2 April 2008 (UTC)