Talk:Patrick Leahy

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Contents 1 Frank exchange of view 2 Censoring? 3 The broken window 4 Previous Political Experience 5 kick ass quote 6 Middle FInger from the Cheney 7 First Democrat 8 Recent move

[edit] Frank exchange of view

I just had to put in the info about the "frank exchange of views" that Cheney and Leahy had on June 22, 2004.

JesseG 01:49, 27 Jun 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Censoring?

Should we censor Mr. Cheney's words?

The Washington Post didn't do it.

We're adults here, we can take it. Besides, is there one among us who has'nt fucked, being fucked over, or being told to fuck off at some point or other?

Great idea to use exact words! This will put the Patrick Leahy article off limits for children of parents with filters. And maybe the entire Wikipedia website. And it makes it very explicit for people who don't know what the less explicity f--- means. The people who were born yesterday, for example. Student7 16:26, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

For those of you who think this only cuts one way, and who have a strong stomach, try Evaluation of quotes. This is a review by a left-wing group of a right wing (and often wrong) set of alleged quotes, not of Leahy, but of another Democrat. It is essentially a smear, but I have a feeling there is a grain of truth somewhere. You won't see it in wikipedia, but it's a {bad} example of what can happen if we keep it up. Student7 12:37, 26 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] The broken window

There is a theory of the broken window. It says in short, if the neighborhood is allowed to run down, things will only get worse. So graffiti should be painted over; broken windows should be mended.

To me, profane language is a potential "broken window" for Wikipedia, our neighborhood. If the language of our encyclopedia deteriorates to street language, what future can we have? We are all familiar with vandalism by (mostly) teen-aged boys and young drunken men, using foul language. What sort of an example do we set for allowing it here where explicitness is unessential to the biography?

One editor claims that it is "essential" and "standard" to quote foul language and not to "censor" quotes. (One of the greatest oxymorons is "Wikipedia standards" - think of the Wikipedia "standards" for vandalism).

A paraphrase of a quote from Oscar Wilde comes to mind, "The man who feels he must call a spade a spade, is fit only to use one."Student7 15:34, 23 July 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia is not censored for minors. There are articles on shit and fuck; there is no reason not to include them in quotes.

To your "broken window" point, Wikipedia is not a soapbox. It is not up to us to repair or maintain the level of debate in American society: that is the job of the politicians themselves, and their electorate. If anyone is to blame for deteroriating the level of debate, it is Cheney. --Saforrest 20:44, 17 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Previous Political Experience

Whoever had written this was mistaken about Leahy not serving elected office prior to being elected to the Senate. I corrected it.

[edit] kick ass quote

Leahy: Of course-I'm sorry Mr. Attorney General- I forgot you can't answer any questions that might be relevant to this.

http://www.crooksandliars.com/2006/02/09.html#a7085

Hah, that clip appearing on The Daily Show is what encouraged me to Wikisearch Leahy to find out who exactly he was. Sherurcij ^{(talk) (Terrorist Wikiproject)} 07:05, 10 February 2006 (UTC)(A Canadian)

[edit] Middle FInger from the Cheney

I don't believe that Cheney gave they middle finger. Does anyone have proof? - Behun

• I will be removing that part until there is proof otherwise. - Behun 04:37, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

This old gas bag is good to the old gas bag voter in VT. He's nothing but blow hard. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 70.161.247.208 (talk • contribs).

[edit] First Democrat

I apologize for attempting to raise the level of debate, but would like to point out that Vermont may have voted "Jeffersonian" prior to 1820. While it is hard to keep up with parties affiliations and beliefs prior to the Civil War, both parties having exchanged views and values periodically, it would appear that Leahy is, strictly speaking, not the first Democratic US Senator. There would have been several before 1820. Maybe we should drop vague terms like "before the Civil War," and specify dates.
But only if the adolescents out there are finished having fun with four letter words on bathroom walls. I wouldn't want to interrupt their pleasure for mere intellectural pursuits.Student7 11:18, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Recent move

Looks like someone was moving disambiguation pages en masse and did a not-so-good job moving this one. All the original links to Patrick Leahy lead to the disambig. page. I'm being bold moving the pages back to where they were (to the best of my knowledge) so at least most of the links can be correct.

Mr. Matté 23:19, 3 November 2007 (UTC)