Talk:Pathways into Darkness
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[edit] Props
Kudos to whoever updated this page with the detailed explainations of the cystals and the monsters. Good work! :-)
[edit] Orange Crystal
The Pathways Into Darkness "Official Hint Book" lists this crystal as being Oranage, not Red, so I'm changing the listing. Magnus 19:58, 26 December 2006 (UTC)
[edit] CVG Assesment
I'm here from the cvg assessment page. I removed the stub tag from the article, as it's not a stub, but the current rating of start is, however correct. it's certainly long enough for a B class, but it's all lists and trivia. The lists of monsters, items and such need to be removed, as well as the trivia section. The list of Germans/their deaths could stay, but it should be converted to prose rather than a list. The story section needs a lot of expansion- currently it sets up the game, but it needs to summarize what happens in it- consider putting the info on the Germans in this section. Finally, and this is the hardest part, to get rated as a B class article you need references. Please look at the various CVG GA class articles for a good idea of what needs referencing. --PresN 19:44, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
- Hey, thanks for the input on the article and how to make it better. But one thing I'm not really clear on. The game is a first person shooter and there isn't really much of a story behind it other than what's in the manual and what's on the back of the box. Got any pointers for how I can expand the story without just putting up a walk-through? White_Bishop 20:27, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
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- Take a look at these articles which have been rated as good articles and are also FPS games with a limited plot: F.E.A.R. and Turok: Dinosaur Hunter. Then of course there is the featured article Doom which has no real storyline to speak of whatsover. Structuring the article like one of these three should improve the quality. Also see: Wikipedia:WikiProject Computer and video games/Article guidelines. Hope that helps, JACOPLANE • 2007-01-9 13:46
You'd be surprised how much story some games have. The only game that really has none is Tetris. The article has me intrigued and I'm gonna see if I can get the game somewhere. If I can, I'll help expending the article. A small tip: a lot of sections can and should be fused. As for the story, that would be "storyline" and "the dead" (which can be used as a reference to "prove" the storyline). And almost all other sections can be merged with gameplay (either that, or become a subsection for it). Look at what FA video game-articles do: Synopsis, Gameplay, Development and Reception/Sales (and anything about a game that's worth devoting a section to, but that differs per game.) However, those four are the basics. A lot of the stuff here also is more GameFaqs material than Wikipedia material.DreamingLady 15:05, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Pathways Into Darkness and Wolfenstein 3D
I'm removing the following sentence:
The game helped usher in the popularity of the first-person shooter genre on home computers, at the same time period as Wolfenstein 3D for the IBM PC.
There are a couple of things wrong with it:
- Pathways Into Darkness was released more than a year after Wolfenstein 3D.
- It was never ported to another platform.
- There can be some doubt whether it even "helped usher in the popularity of the first-person shooter genre" on the Macintosh, since it was never even remotely as popular as Marathon, not even as popular as the Wolfenstein 3D port.
- It was not sold as "a new adventure game", not a new type of game.[1]
Graf Bobby 03:03, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Capitalization
I'm pretty sure every non-all-caps appearance of the title in the game, packaging and manual says "Pathways Into Darkness". I'm too lazy to take any screenshots or scans right now, though. --DocumentN 18:50, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
[edit] What is verifiable abt the idea that the Hispanics are Cuban?
_ _ Verifiability is key in WP: the way to keep articles like the accompanying one from being cluttered up with {{fact}} tags by jerks like me is to convert conjectures like
- The last group of dead humans you can talk to are a group of Cuban mercenaries (most likely, this fact is never confirmed, but they are definitely Hispanic) who died while trying to loot the pyramid for artifacts and treasure.
into verifiable statements about what the dominant opinion makers in the field are conjecturing.
_ _ While Google-tests are not sufficient to establish that the Hispanics are Cuban, they often are helpful in deciding what opinions are widely enuf expressed that they are worth trying to verify as dominant, or at least strong, contenders. I tried looking for the game's title with "Cuban" or "Hispanic", and with each but not the other. Unfortunately, i got results that seem inconsistent: excluding the word "Hispanic" appeared to increase the number of hits, and my interest is too low to keep at it long enuf to find out what's really going on. (Besides, you need to look at "Latin" and "Spanish-speaking" besides "Hispanic".) I'm guessing that something like "Identifying them as 'Cubans' is common." and "Many players argue that their AK-47s support that theory." (which i just made up) could turn out to be reasonable assertions.
_ _ The problem is that even tho you dial back your claims along those lines, you still need verifiability, and who are the reliable sources? The Times (of London), the New York Times, the Washington Post, The New Yorker, and peer reviewed academic journals are something like a joint gold standard, and finding a comparably credible video-game authority may be impossible. It may convince a lot of editors if you can cite the 5 or 10% of the publications on the subject that are most cited (for whatever reason) by the advertising and electronic-entertainment sections of pubs like the NYT -- personally, i think of the NYT daily or weekly "Technology" section. If two or three magazines that the gold-standard pubs accord a "non-laughable source" stature imply that most PiD players call them "Cubans", i expect you'll get away with using those magazines as verification for statements that recognize you can't prove their nationality but mention that there are nevertheless patterns of why players call them Cuban. (But you may have to write articles on Gamer's Companion, etc., where you'd document its authoritative status.)
_ _ The article needs work, to keep nagging colleagues off your backs, but that work is not one of the labors of Hercules. Happy editing.
--Jerzy•t 04:58, 2 February 2008 (UTC)
