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[edit] Pat Condell
Is this the same guy on You Tube? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Freedom4korea (talk • contribs)
- No, it's Superman. — EliasAlucard (talk · contribs) 16:59 10 Nov, 2007 (UTC)
- He's both. --88.114.150.87 (talk) 21:29, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
- Legend has it that Pat Condell is more badass than Wolverine. I hear he dissects Christians, Muslims, and occasionally also Jews, with his atheist-claws, simply because they believe in God. Total pwnage. — EliasAlucard (Discussion · contribs) 19:14, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
- He's both. --88.114.150.87 (talk) 21:29, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Neutrality dispute
I wrote most of the article under dispute, and have been at pains to make it as neutral as possible. As well as quoting Mr Condell, I've also quoted his critics on the Berkeley Council, and the author Dinesh D'Souza. Everything in the article is backed up with citation, so I don't understand how saying this article has "Laughable neutrality, it almost needs a delete and start again" has any basis in fact at all. What is it based on? If these accusations aren't backed up, I would request that the neutrality dispute banner be taken down bingo99, 23:01, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
- I have reviewed the article and I don't see problems with neutrality, this seems a long list of facts and deeds, no opinions offered. 76.20.226.239 01:59, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
After watching his video the quotes use, taken out of context, do not stand for what he believes. As I know from watching his videos is very careful about how he criticizes religion, and take out of context these do not infer what is meant. Reading this article from the view of somebody who has no/little experience of his videos. I would say is a very narrow minded person, who is naive of cultural differences, yet I know this is not the case as he is normally very careful, and when criticizing something like head scarfs, I don't know for sure, but I highly doubt he would make such a generalized comment like that, which using the quote seems to infer. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.8.138.110 (talk) 12:25, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
"I highly doubt he would make such a generalized comment like that"
The Trouble with Islam http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HhN6CG1zCRc
Also of interest, a follow up video
Am I a racist? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H1ZLXbKeL2U
bingo99, 21:40, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
article seems ridiculously long for a minor internet figure —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ninjakarma (talk • contribs) 19:47, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
Currently the 2nd most subscribed to user on YouTube of all time
http://uk.youtube.com/members?t=a&p=1&s=ms&g=0 -
- bingo99, 12:30, 17 April 2008 (UTC)
[edit] About the hits claims.
Perhaps it would be wise to note that, while undoubtedly there are many who watched his YouTube videos in support of his views, there are a lot of people who watch it in deploration, and use quotes contained in the video as ammunition in debates. Members of anti-British National Party and anti-National Front organisations would be an example.
The article as is seems to give complete validity to his response to there being 1 million hits on The Trouble with Islam, without actually being a bit more skeptical about those statistics.
Ginger Warrior (talk) 15:48, 23 November 2007 (UTC)Ginger Warrior
It is something of a strawman to say objecting to stoning women to death or being executed for alleged witchcraft is wrong cause the BNP agree with you. Here's what Condell says, which would also have to go into the article
"This has got nothing to do with immigration. Let me make this very clear. I welcome immigration into Britain. I think that within reason I think its a healthy thing for the economy, I think its a good thing for the country. This is about religion, and only about religion. So to any white supremacist morons out there who think they can latch on to this video, in a way they've attempted to latch on to some of my previous videos. Go and take a p*** on a live electric rail. Cause I am not your friend, I am your enemy. And I am proud to be your enemy. Just as I am proud to be the enemy of every creepy islamo-fascist on this planet. Because you people are two sides of the same coin. And it's an evil, worthless, poisonous currency that I want nothing to do with." Pat Condell - A Word to Islamofascists http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=h7iBoq_yC4k
As for the hits, they can be counted online can't they. I know 'The Trouble with Islam' vlog is on a number of sites. Here's what what I've counted so far. Anyone know how to verify the complete total?
- 242,776 hits
- http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=HhN6CG1zCRc
- Views: 1,593,365
- http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=418_1176494781
- bingo99, 16:43, 23 November 2007 (UTC)
Here's an earlier quote:
"Hi everyone, I'd like to say a couple of things here, firstly about my videos. I post them on various different websites, and I really do appreciate all the different messages and comments I get. But I could really do without seeing any more racist comments, if you wouldn't mind. I'm speaking here to the white racists, but this applies equally to the brown ones. I don't share your pathetic and obnoxious views in any way imaginable. So if you really have to show the world what an intellectual insect you are, please don't do it here. Because every time I see one of your commments, its like stepping in dogs***. And I don't want to have to follow you around with a pooper scooper. So if you could help me out and just put them somewhere else. Preferably up your own fundament, using the business section of a pineapple." - Pat Condell, Unholy Scripture http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=LEt20PgKmcU
- bingo99, 17:01, 23 November 2007 (UTC)
[edit] his primary web site is disabled as of April 2, 2008
Today I found that his primary web site http://www.patcondell.net is disabled. I'm not sure why. It could be as a result of threats to the hosting company since similar threats occurred relative to the main web site for the movie Fitna. That's a supposition on my part, but it's a strong suspicion based on what has been occurring lately relative to death threats going around the net to sites & people critical of Islam. I hope we hear more about why the site was suspended. cbean (talk)
Update on April 3, 2008: Mr. Condell states at http://www.myspace.com/patcondell that the site will return in a few days. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.115.60.64 (talk) 18:00, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
update on 19th april, 2008: Site appears to be working fine. Alastairthegreat (talk) 11:17, 19 April 2008 (UTC)