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[edit] Fair use rationale

Because the image licence was changed today by Socrates2008, I quickly provided the following "fair use rationale":

"On December 5, 1988 I typed a letter on FCO-headed notepaper and mailed it the same day to The Guardian, which published the letter word-for-word on December 7, 1988. Although it was The Guardian that entitled the letter "The double standards on terrorism", I claim copyright of the full published text which I have wikified here. As copyright holder, I approve the use on Wikipedia of this letter as well all the letters that I sent for publication in The Guardian between 1988 and 1993."

I firmly believe that this "fair use rationale" is both appropriate and sufficient to support the original uploading of the image, which was done by my alter ego, Phase1 on February 11, 2006.PJHaseldine (talk) 19:59, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

Because the image was listed yesterday for deletion, I have today corrected and revised the fair use rationale as follows:
"On December 5, 1988 I typed a letter on FCO-headed notepaper and mailed it the same day to The Guardian, which published the letter word-for-word on December 7, 1988. Although it was The Guardian that entitled the letter "The double standards on terrorism", I claim copyright of the full published text together with Richard Norton-Taylor's front page summary entitled "FO official calls Thatcher stance 'self-righteous'". As copyright holder, I approve the use on Wikipedia of the image and text of the letter as well as the text of all the letters that I sent for publication in The Guardian that are referenced here."
I have voted to keep the image.PJHaseldine (talk) 10:08, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
I think you're going to have problems claiming copyright for Richard Norton-Taylor's article. Socrates2008 (Talk) 10:25, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
This is how I responded to EdJohnston's query on this subject:
  • Comment: I assume we agree that I have copyright for my letter? Richard Norton-Taylor (after checking with me by telephone on December 6, 1988 that I intended the full text of the letter should be published in The Guardian the following day) then proceeded to summarise the content of my letter in his front page article "FO official calls Thatcher stance 'self-righteous'". Mr Norton-Taylor's words are therefore my words. You could therefore argue that he and I share a joint copyright for the front page article, but I very much doubt that he would wish to pursue such a claim.PJHaseldine (talk) 21:10, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
The issue is not whether he'd object to you using the piece (assuming he and not the newspaper owns the copyright), but rather your own assumption of copyright ownership over a piece that he wrote, on the grounds that he happened write it about you and/or your article. Socrates2008 (Talk) 04:17, 6 June 2008 (UTC)