User talk:PashaZhnyets

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[edit] Ukraine Portal

Hello PashaZhnyets. If you are interested, please check the Ukraine portal for current work in progress on Ukraine related articles or for areas requiring further attention. You can announce the new articles you create at Portal:Ukraine/New article announcements board, and please make sure to add this board to your watchlist. Ласкаво просимо! —dima/talk/ 21:04, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Speedy deletion of Calvary Baptist Church (Roseville)

A tag has been placed on Calvary Baptist Church (Roseville), requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done for the following reason:

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Under the criteria for speedy deletion, articles that do not meet basic Wikipedia criteria may be deleted at any time. Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as an appropriate article, and if you can indicate why the subject of this article is appropriate, you may contest the tagging. To do this, add {{hangon}} on the top of the page and leave a note on the article's talk page explaining your position. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the article that would confirm its subject's notability under the guidelines.

For guidelines on specific types of articles, you may want to check out our criteria for biographies, for web sites, for bands, or for companies. Feel free to leave a note on my talk page if you have any questions about this. Mdsummermsw (talk) 13:38, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Calvary Baptist Church (Roseville) has been deleted

Because of the large number of articles that are added about non-notable people (someone's favorite gym teacher, say) and non-notable organizations (a Bridge club that has gotten together nearly every Thursday for 10 years, for instance), these articles are subject to "speedy" deletion if they do not assert notability under appropriate guidelines. This, unfortunatley, is where your article fell.

Notability is a fairly subtle concept on wikipedia. It is not about whether or not the subject exists or is "important". Instead, the question is whether or not it is "worthy of notice" based on several guidelines we have come to agree on.

The sources you showed on the talk page showed that the church exists, based on several directory listings, blog entries, etc. that one would expect to find for any functioning church of any size. Wikipedia does not wish to have an entry for every church, school, strip mall, office park, etc. so our guidelines are more restrictive. The overall guidelines can be found here. An overall theme, though, is that we are looking for substantial coverage in reliable, independant sources. This breaks down into three concepts: - Substantial coverage is needed so that the article can include a meaningful amount of info about the subject. This rules out directory type listings and assures that the source has something meaningful to say about the subject. This also rules out sources that merely mention the subject in passing while discussing another subject. An article on a notable movie, for example, might mention a non-notable street it was filmed on. - Independant sources are required to avoid bias and assure that sources unrelated to the subject feel it is noteworthy. Every political hopeful is not notable, though their websites certainly say otherwise. 13 year-old John Doe probably believes that the band he plays in is quite notable, though it probably isn't. - Reliable sources is a trickier concept, discussed in detail here. Blogs are not reliable sources because absolutely anyone can say absolutely anything in a blog. The New York Times is a reliable source because they have a very well established reputation for fact-checking and acuracy. If a blog says all yellow paint sold in the U.S. is dangerously radioactive, it might be true, a figment of someone's imagination or anywhere inbetween. If the [New York Times]] reports it, I'd be concerned about my bathroom walls might kill me.

To establish notability, follow the guidelines at Wikipedia:Notability and you're on solid footing.

Outside of all of this, there are a few shortcuts, based on common topics. For example: National Historic Sites are notable, a band that wins a major award or has a charting song/album is notable, national political leaders are notable, etc. Different topics have guidelines to the shortcuts (all are listed at WP:NOTABILITY: - WP:PROF for academics, professors, etc. - WP:BK for books - WP:MUSIC for music-related topics - WP:MOVIE for films and related topics - WP:ORG for "all groups of people organized together for a purpose" (companies, churches, theater groups, clubs, baseball teams, etc.) - WP:BIO for individual people etc.

Hope this helps.

- Mdsummermsw (talk) 15:39, 29 May 2008 (UTC)