Talk:Party of Regions

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Contents 1 Centrist 2 Foundation date 3 From November 21, 2002 till December 7, 2004 Viktor Yanukovych was Prime Minister 4 Bias editing 4.1 By comparison Our Ukraine - People's self defence bloc 4.2 Our Ukraine is bitterly divided

[edit] Centrist

Thanks for creating this article! The article about this major party in UA was missing for too long. I edited an article somewhat and would like to elaborate a little on one point. Before my edit the party was called "centrist". I think it's incorrect to call it so. The centrist party, is the position in the Left-Right politics line. The main political idea of this party since its creation and until recently was its being a pro-Government party and pro-Kuchma party as the article correctly notes. Now, the party is in opposition not because the government is to the left or to the right from this party but because the power in UA changed hands.

Thus, the usual left-right terminology does not apply and using it in the article may be misleading for an unfamiliar reader. The fact that the party's populist rhetoric (also being not particularly left or right wing) appeals to some true sentiments of significant part of population also does not make this party centrist. If the party calls itself centrist, we may have this said in the article but clearly stating that this is simply what the party calls itself rather than this being objective description. Irpen 04:49, May 24, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Foundation date

There seems to be a contradiction between the date of foundation in the infobox (26 October 1997) and in the text (created in March 2001). Can someone clarify the correct date? Davewild 21:05, 23 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] From November 21, 2002 till December 7, 2004 Viktor Yanukovych was Prime Minister

Who were the other party's in the coalition? Mariah-Yulia (talk) 00:46, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Bias editing

There is notable bias i the editing of this page most notably the selective publication of partial information distorting statistical information ad facts.

The Party of Regions had increased their percentage of the vote in 2007. The number of people overall participating in the election was less then in 2006. It is false and misleading to make a comparison and claim that the parties vote was less the before whilst selectively leaving out other facts of information. The following charts show this to be a fact.

Results of the parliamentary elections:

If you also look more closely at the results will will noticed that there was a consolidation of Yulia Tymoshenko's vote at the expense of the Socialist Party ad our Ukraine. In fact Our Ukraine lost significantly more votes then Party of Regions but the editors have not mentioned that fact on Our Ukraine's page. Anyone can present a statistic that is not not balanced by real facts or proper statical comparison. Such selective bias editing brings wikipedia into disrepute. Wikipedia is not a partisan pro-Ukrainian Presidential publication. DemocracyWorks (talk) 08:08, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] By comparison Our Ukraine - People's self defence bloc

More expamples of selective bias editing by a select group of pro-presidential supporters and corrupt Wikipedia admiistrators bringing Wikipedia into disrepute

Our Ukraine-People's Self Defence bloc received 14.16% of the vote, 236964 less votes in 2007 then 2006, representing an overall swing of 0.20%.

The number of votes received by Our Ukraine in 2007 was significantly less the the number of votes received by the Party of Regions. It is interesting that editors o Wiklipedia selectivly highlight false and misleading statistics and do not apply the same policies to there ow supported party. FACT In 2006, 27% of voters supported minor party candidates who did not receive more then the minimum 3% representation threshold. In 2007, only 7% of the electorate supported minor party (Including the socialists) This and the regional distribution results and swing tables indicate that most of Yulia Tymoshenko's support came from a consolidation of the minor party vote in regions where Yulia Tymosheko was already the leading party. BUT of course they do not want to publish this fact preferring instead, aided and abbetted by corrupt admistrators and other editors, push a pro-presidetial partisan bias POV, bringing Wikipedia into international disrepute.

Play the ball and not the man.Italic text

OK your right, sorry about that. But PoR still lost votes.... +2.23 of votes = losing 11 seats? shouldn't that be explaned?Mariah-Yulia (talk) 16:38, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

Yes, PoR increased their proportion of the national vote by 2.23% but BYut increased their proportion by far more, so the proportion of support for BYuT's compared to PoR increased, so BYuT gained some seats and PoR lost some. -- Timberframe (talk) 17:03, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Our Ukraine is bitterly divided

10% of Our Ukraine's represetation tendered their resigation this week February 26, 2008.

There is serious discussio that once Yushshenko can secure more power and support for a return to a Presidetial Authoriratian regime and a possible second term he will dissmiss Yulia Tymochenko and appoint someone of his own chosing. Ukraine can expect fresh early elections later this year