Talk:Parramatta Eels

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[edit] Players of Note

I've been working on expanding and improving this page over the past couple of days - not finished yet obviously but I'm getting there. One thing I'd like to get some input on is what defines a "Player of Note"? Have other RL club pages resolved a definition for them? Is it any representative player? Or is it a completely subjective concept?

I have issues with the current players that are listed under this heading (Tim Smith, Fui Fui Moi Moi, Dean Widders, etc.) as it seems wrong that they are listed alongside players who are widely considered to be significant players of their generation. Any thoughts? -- User:CumberlandsAshes81 - 14 July 2006

As an afterthought I guess the same goes for coaches of note as well. Is JT a 'coach of note'? Why not Cronin? If it's going to be just a list of coaches then it should be 'Coaches' along with their dates of tenure. If anyone feels like commenting on this go ahead -- User:CumberlandsAshes81 - 14 July 2006
I've been going through the "player of note" sections of several other clubs, and I came across similar problems: current players who have not achieved the same level as their predecessors do not deserve a spot on there. I've borrowed a template developed by Tiburon, and they look far neater. Perhaps "players of note" should include Test, state, and players with 200+ first grade appearances - what do you think?--Alexio 10:15, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
Agreed. There should be some kind of threshold for who is a player of note. I think that players of note are Representative players (State of Origin, Internationals - though not City/Country). Generally, players who have played 200+ games have represented their State or Country? User:CumberlandsAshes81 - 22 August 2006

[edit] eels

THE EELS RULE!

[edit] Club Song

Sung to the tune of Australian folk song Click go the Shears, this Club song was written in 1974:

We Are The Eels
You'll hear a tremendous roar go up as Parra take the field
Just look at the blue and gold of the mighty Eels
They’re running out the victors strong and kicking up their heels
If you want to see how football's played then go and see the Eels.
Quick goes the ball from man to man
They're strong in the tackle and sure with their hands
They play it hard and fast, that's the only way to win
And when they boast a try you should hear the fans all sing.
Good onya Parra you're brave and bold
You're fighting fit, true blue and worth your weight in gold
And when we see the other side slowly start to yield
We raise our voices to the sky and glorify the Eels.
  • In the 1980s another song was recorded by Australian singer and Eels fan Jon English and We are the Eels fell into disuse. However, the original song was revived in the late 1990s and is now used as a victory song after home matches. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Mdmanser (talkcontribs) 10:39, 3 April 2007 (UTC).
Where should this 'culture' content go? I note there's a seperate page for the Bulldogs song. There is another Eels song that can be added to go alongside this. CumberlandsAshes81 14:16, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] GA On Hold

There are several things this article is lacking at the moment with regards to GA criteria. First, inline citations are extremely sparse in most areas. The "Crest" section has but one, the "Stadium" section none, and many paragraphs containing significant detail in other sections are also wholly uncited. Second, the coverage of the Eels within the article and its layout is a bit confusing. While you have a good separate History of the Eels article, the current history section within the main article doesn't really summarize it and is quite disorganized by comparison to the History article. Perhaps a merge (the article wouldn't become that much larger) or a proper summary of the club's history in the main article would fix this? Similarly, coverage of the club's coaches is missing - they appear for some reason in the History article. Again, either the Coaches material should be merged in or somehow pointed to from the main article (this might be difficult as it's just a list). Finally, the last coverage issue is the lack of scoring records and actual statistics in the "Records and Statistic" section - How has this team done historically against its competitors (especially the eminent rivalries)? --Meowist 18:16, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

Doing... SpecialWindler talk 06:14, 14 July 2007 (UTC)
Some things (I have put in a list so you can reply underneath each by using **)
  • Are there any more areas where you could see more citations.
Not presently. Meowist 18:59, 18 July 2007 (UTC)
  • I don't personally think that there is anything wrong with the history section, comparing to other Good articles Sydney Roosters, South Sydney Rabbitohs. But if you see some weaknesses please tell. I don't think a merge would be necassary.
The other articles do indeed seem to have followed this trend...I'll lower my objection about the history section. Meowist 18:59, 18 July 2007 (UTC)
  • The clubs coachs? I don't think that is notable enough to be mentioned on the main page. Maybe their first ever coach but ... none of them highlight a notable event under the main article. It is suitable for them to be in the History article. If you still disagree, please tell.
The GA articles don't have such a table either. I was basing my comparison of this article to the All Blacks, which did have notable coachs. I retract this objection too. Meowist 18:59, 18 July 2007 (UTC)
  • I've added a table, is that enough... There probably more room for improvement. Stuff like, vs. each oppenent, Thats what the List of Parramatta Records is for, when its made.
Yeah, it looks good. Meowist 18:59, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

SpecialWindler talk 05:53, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

I'm passing it --Meowist 18:59, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Run-on side

moved to 2007 page Londo06 20:30, 24 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Eels 1980.jpg

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BetacommandBot 09:42, 27 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Billy Rayner

Can someone figure out how to include Billy Rayner into this article so the orphan tag can be removed from the Billy Rayner article? Kingturtle (talk) 15:05, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

Done.--Jeff79 (talk) 16:02, 11 April 2008 (UTC)