Talk:Parmigianino
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[edit] "Girolamo Francesco Maria Mazzola" indeed!
... this is the same pretentious showing-off a spurious "correctness" that puts Caravaggio at "Michelangelo Merisi". The fact is, that everyone looking for information on Parmigianino will be redirected, so this sophmoric attempt at looking "knowing" is harmless after all. But is Palladio next? Bronzino? Middle-class Americans all have middle initials and surnames. Italian painters and hip-hop personalities do not. To understand this is already a beginning. --Wetman 17:40, 11 July 2005 (UTC)
Despite whether you think that the article name is "pretentious", the fact remains that this was the name of the artist. It is the most unambiguous name to give the article, which I believe is a naming guideline. Where the artist in question was known by more than one name, it seems to make sense to redirect to the most "official" name.
- Wikipedia usually uses the popular name. See Wikipedia:Naming conventions (common names). This specifically guides us to use popular pseudonyms. --Sketchee 06:29, 26 November 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Requested move
As per Wikipedia:Naming conventions (common names), this page should be moved to the common names. The move fits perfectly with the examples listed there and with the way other artists of the period are currently named. --Sketchee 06:39, 26 November 2005 (UTC)
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- Support --Sketchee 06:39, 26 November 2005 (UTC)
- Support naming conventions and their interpretation for these cases are clear. Rd232 talk 15:00, 26 November 2005 (UTC)
- The page was at Parmigianino for two and a half years before it was moved without prior discussion. (history) There was one immediate objection afterwards (see above on this page) but it stayed here until the issue was raised again now. Rd232 talk 15:00, 26 November 2005 (UTC)
This article has been renamed as the result of a move request. Dragons flight 05:15, 19 December 2005 (UTC)
[edit] April 2006 Needs Clean-Up notice
I see that some clean-up of this article has occurred since the April 2006 tagging, including cleaning up the results of the Dec '05 re-renaming. What I don't see is comments from either User:Moe Epsilon or User:Attilios on what they thought needed cleaning-up. Here are some problems that I see:
- I have my doubts about the fair-use of the long quote from The Story of Art by E.H. Gombrich (1995).
- The Biography section is full of tense shifts.
- The intoduction says He was an influential painter, but there is no section on his influence. Bejnar 22:07, 4 September 2006 (UTC)
- The bit about the Madonna with Long Neck needs to be clarified and put into a format that explains the painting, rather than exalt it without much reason given. The entire section praises the work and artist as if it were his mentor, without much reason given as to why this painting is good except to say its the writers preference. The art style also needs to be named, rather than explained. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 72.50.176.188 (talk) 16:41, 6 March 2007 (UTC).
[edit] Parmigiano
Wetman, I agree Parmigiano is neither correct nor up to date, but it is/was widely used by such major scholars as A Hayatt Major or here by the NMM in London (try googling "P.. painter"): [[1]]0 Johnbod 17:43, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
- No problem, as long as the reader doesn't come away with a feeling that Parimgiano is an equivalent. A. Hyatt Mayor deserves a Wikipedia page. --Wetman 02:16, 14 November 2006 (UTC)
